Can we use ACT to recognize who is griefing the party and report them afterwards?

[_Koneko_]

you flat out cannot use it without risking a ban it's just that the game master has not reached you yet to yell "stop right there criminal scum you have violated the tos" and issued a perma ban

gaming is a privilege not a right obey the terms of service

[Roeshel]

you flat out cannot use it without risking a ban it's just that the game master has not reached you yet to yell "stop right there criminal scum you have violated the tos" and issued a perma ban

gaming is a privilege not a right obey the terms of service

This is ridiculous. First of all, games should have something that measures how much dps you are putting out there, I shouldn't have to download third-party apps just to have my DPS calculated. With ffxiv I have to download and install a third-party app just to have a basic feature that is more or less essential if someone is actually looking to play as best as they can. And on top of that third-party app is "technically" against ToS. In other words, it is against ToS to know how well or bad you are actually playing.

[VelKallor]

. With ffxiv I have to download and install a third-party app just to have a basic feature that is more or less essential if someone is actually looking to play as best as they can. And on top of that third-party app is "technically" against ToS. In other words, it is against ToS to know how well or bad you are actually playing.

FF 14 does not need a parser and it isnt essential at all.

[ZedxKayn]

FF 14 does not need a parser and it isnt essential at all.

I need a parser to know who to give my cards to, who to dance partner, to figure out what I potentially did wrong.

Parsers are gonna be needed as long as harder content have DPS checks.

[Shibi]

In other words, it is against ToS to know how well or bad you are actually playing.

It's a case of past actions leading to "this is why we can't have nice things".

Tools used this tool to call out low performers - like the OP of the thread in fact - and this is something YoshiP doesn't want in his game. Just like he doesn't want to hurt people's feelings when you defriend (so that's one way only).

If those tools used it only for their own education, and never started threads asking if they can report people, or call out people, then it would likely have been allowed. But that horse has long bolted.

[Roeshel]

It's a case of past actions leading to "this is why we can't have nice things".

Tools used this tool to call out low performers - like the OP of the thread in fact - and this is something YoshiP doesn't want in his game. Just like he doesn't want to hurt people's feelings when you defriend (so that's one way only).

If those tools used it only for their own education, and never started threads asking if they can report people, or call out people, then it would likely have been allowed. But that horse has long bolted.

If you are defending trollers, please don't talk to me. Griefing is not low performance, it is toxic performance. People are right that I don't actually need parsing to detect a troller in a dungeon. With experience, it becomes easy to identify who is trolling.

[Shibi]

If you are defending trollers, please don't talk to me.

I'm not. I am making the point why this is the way it is. Too many tools wanting to use them to call people out - like the very OP of this thread asking "Can we use ACT to recognize who is griefing the party and report them afterwards?" instead of just kicking, or in the worst cases reporting without using the parser.

They have their uses for personal use (knowing who to partner as an example), and are very important in the savage scene, but there are way too many tools in this game, in all MMOS, who use ACT and similar to call out people.

Using them needs you to stay silent about the fact, to 100% turn a blind eye to other people's lack of performance. If you find they make your blood boil - turn them off in PUGS.

[_Koneko_]

This is ridiculous. First of all, games should have something that measures how much dps you are putting out there, I shouldn't have to download third-party apps just to have my DPS calculated. With ffxiv I have to download and install a third-party app just to have a basic feature that is more or less essential if someone is actually looking to play as best as they can. And on top of that third-party app is "technically" against ToS. In other words, it is against ToS to know how well or bad you are actually playing.

or you could i dunno obey the tos and not risk getting banned i know it's hard choice for some people but seeing years of work down the drain because you wanted a dps tool is not worth it

like i said gaming is a privilege not a right Yoshi P and Se has already told the community where they stand the ToS is crystal clear there is no room for interpretation

[Roeshel]

or you could i dunno obey the tos and not risk getting banned i know it's hard choice for some people but seeing years of work down the drain because you wanted a dps tool is not worth it

like i said gaming is a privilege not a right Yoshi P and Se has already told the community where they stand the ToS is crystal clear there is no room for interpretation

If a GM seriously decides to ban me for using ACT I will go to Control Panel, search for FFXIV and uninstall. This is bs I am not putting up with. I really don't care about the reasons why the ToS is so poorly made. I will buy alpha for AoC and maybe put more hours into studying instead of playing.

[Lanadra]

If a GM seriously decides to ban me for using ACT I will go to Control Panel, search for FFXIV and uninstall. This is bs I am not putting up with. I really don't care about the reasons why the ToS is so poorly made. I will buy alpha for AoC and maybe put more hours into studying instead of playing.

As we have already told you. You will not get banned for using ACT. Not unless you're dumb enough to advertise it in game. Or even worse, decide to harass someone with your parser readout. If you're someone inclined to do that, have fun in Mordion Gaol, I certainly won't sympathize with you. If all you want is to use ACT to gauge your own potential for improvement.. then you won't get in trouble for using it.. because SE won't even know that you do.

I'm not. I am making the point why this is the way it is. Too many tools wanting to use them to call people out - like the very OP of this thread asking "Can we use ACT to recognize who is griefing the party and report them afterwards?" instead of just kicking, or in the worst cases reporting without using the parser.

They have their uses for personal use (knowing who to partner as an example), and are very important in the savage scene, but there are way too many tools in this game, in all MMOS, who use ACT and similar to call out people.

Using them needs you to stay silent about the fact, to 100% turn a blind eye to other people's lack of performance. If you find they make your blood boil - turn them off in PUGS.

For the record, the person you're quoting.. is the OP.