PLD IS NOT BROKEN

[Aceofspades]

It is harder to tank with but it is far from broken. maybe less QQ and more learning how to effectivly play PLD. That being said, making Holy Succor an instant tp skill with a 30-45 second cool down (much like second wind for monk) would be about all I can think of that would be a resonable "fix" to pld. They are already addressing hate controll by increasing enmity +/- materia stats. Damage deflection is already through the roof, and PLD is the only tank that get the ablitiy to cast Stone Skin and IF your good enough you can apply stone skin before any unavoidable magic attack (typically aoe like hellfire). If combined with sentinal and rampart damage deflection is awsome. with all three buffs up and fire resist earrings (+14 fire resist) I take 500+ damage max. pop a cure right after hell fire (start when Iffrit begins hellfire) and i come out of that attack with 100% HP. same can be done for most magic attacks like hell fire, except for the fact that sentinal and rampart both have long cool downs. Reguardless, being able to pop stone skin before magic attacks is an enourmous buff. That being said I would still love to see some kind of magic def that comes with tank gear (cobalt, sentinal, darklight) make a come back. Dosent make sense if your archer has the same amount of magic defense as a well geared tank.

[Brannigan]

I disagree and you're dumb

[YuriSan]

I disagree and you're dumb

LMAO!!!!!!!

omg that is the way all replies will look like soon in these forums!

On topic:

Tanking on WAR is like playing Eddie in Tekken. Only noobs choose him cause
no matter what u do pretty much is a combo, u can set the controller on the floor and tap it
with your feet and still have a chance to defeat ur oponent.

PLD IS! the best tank (imo lol)
WAR is a mediocre tank at best.

[Atoli]

I disagree and you're dumb

May I quote this as the most childish answer I've ever read on these forums?
And I've read a lot of bad stuff here..


Also, about holding back as a DD:
I always have to hold back, it doesn't matter if the tank is a PLD or a WAR..o,O'
I think PLD might be a bit inferior to WAR right now, but still far from broken.
Yep, I know, I'm not allowed to talk about a class I don't play myself but I've spent a lot of time with both kinds of tanks as a DD, as a healer, and as a healer I actually prefer PLD tanks by far.

[Rika]

[buritoslicer]

You mention Ifrit primal fight as your point of reference. How bout the new dungeons? Or even moogle? PLD is broken, but it isn't exactly impossible to do properly. The fact that warriors make better tanks piss me off but I'm not gonna deny the fact that my favorite class/job is broken (yet again). Let's be realistic.

[Dzian]

You mention Ifrit primal fight as your point of reference. How bout the new dungeons? Or even moogle? PLD is broken, but it isn't exactly impossible to do properly. The fact that warriors make better tanks piss me off but I'm not gonna deny the fact that my favorite class/job is broken (yet again). Let's be realistic.

it saddens me. like you it is my favorite class to play.

thing is i can tank on paladin i can do all that stuff time my stoneskins etc. but i can still generate ALOT more emnity on my war.
annnddddd to put it simply.
the more emnity the tank generates, the more emnity the dd can safely generate which ultimately = more damage + faster fights

[YuriSan]

i can still generate ALOT more emnity on my war.

You just need to practice your PLD a bit.
I will steal a mob from a WAR anytime... (given we are wearing same gear on us as far as enmity goes)

[Dzian]

You just need to practice your PLD a bit.

I've been called legendary at paladin by many people but please do elaborate. If you have genuinely awesome info that makes me a better paladin then I am genuinely interested to learn. but unless there's some secret ability that magically reduces all of my recast timers that I don't know about then I don't see how I can possibly generate significantly more emnity.

But as stated in my earlier post it is my favorite job so always interested in playing it better.

PLD is broken, but it isn't exactly impossible to do properly.

Quoted for truth. It's certainly not the case that maybe 9/10 people take a warrior just because noone knows how to play paladin. It's not rocket science.

[YuriSan]

I've been called legendary at paladin by many people

I laughed so hard at this statement i popped a muscle!!
Now I have to go to the doctor... thanks a lot dude!

Actually 9/10 people don't know how to play PLD because they aren't playing it, they are tanking on WAR.
It really isn't rocket science, peeps just don't do PLD often is all.

p.s: The opinion of the majority isn't relliable.