Duty Roulette «*Challenge*» Mode

[Pinaps]

Hello all,

I just had this idea to make things a little bit more interesting while running roulette, what do you think of a Challenge mode which will activate Min iLVL + no echo in the roulette?
It could give 10%-20% more rewards to account for the time spent (Exp and currency).

So people who just want to finish it quickly could just run it as per normal and others could run it with the challenge mode and get a little bit of rewards in doing so.

It would also leveling players to just run a dungeon with min iLVL activated and still be able to find other player to do so.

Would you be happy to have such a mode? Or do you think people would just run it in a normal mode?

[Rongway]

I would be okay with this if each duty tracked not just completion but also completion under the conditions minIL+SilenceEcho, and the roulette required completion of all duties under those conditions before it would unlock. I would loathe to be put into duties with people who just queued the roulette for the giggles when they wouldn't have a reasonable shot at clearing anyway, but it would be fun to run with other people who can handle the original difficulty.

Would 20% be enough of a bonus though? It sometimes feels like the difference between minIL and maxIL for some duties is closer to maybe 40%, but I don't have any data to support this. And we still don't know how at-level but overgeared content will feel after the stat squish yet.

[Pinaps]

Maybe require completion under min iLVL/no echo only for raids and alliance raids?
As for dungeon I don’t think people would go back to complete it just to unlock it under roulette and dungeon itself are not that hard anyways, same for the msq roulette.
For trial I’m not sure, maybe put all trials for ARR under these challenge mode by default? And require running it first for HW onwards?

[Rongway]

It didn't occur to me that people would want to do this with dungeons, to be honest. At minIL the dungeons are still going to be run the same: some people will do full pulls and some people will do half pulls. How much of the player base would shift from normal mode full pulls to challenge mode half pulls will depend on the effect of the stat squish on overgearing.

[Stepjam]

I'd be down for that with trials.

The only real issue I see is that Roulettes primarily exist to keep older content filled with players so newer players don't have to wait forever and a day to get into stuff that isn't current. But this kind of roulette would basically create an entirely new category to join since normal DF doesn't do any of what you listed.

That's also why I think it would be better with trials, smaller pool to pull from. And since trials already go fast, it's not the same kind of drain that a dungeon can be, so having the option isn't going to pull people away from the existing roulettes (that once again exist so that newer players can actually get into content).

[Luin]

Hello all,

I just had this idea to make things a little bit more interesting while running roulette, what do you think of a Challenge mode which will activate Min iLVL + no echo in the roulette?
It could give 10%-20% more rewards to account for the time spent (Exp and currency).

So people who just want to finish it quickly could just run it as per normal and others could run it with the challenge mode and get a little bit of rewards in doing so.

It would also leveling players to just run a dungeon with min iLVL activated and still be able to find other player to do so.

Would you be happy to have such a mode? Or do you think people would just run it in a normal mode?

It would have to work like Limited Leveling Roulette, in that it'd require a premade party, otherwise it would split the queue.

I don't think extra tomes/gil/exp would be enough to incentivize it.

[NyannCat]

You can't add a bonus reward for it.

Casual players will just join it for the bonus and you'll end up carrying them. And then you'll get mad for carrying them and that's how you get toxicity into the game.
Savage/ultimate raiders are only toxic because they feel like the casual players are wasting their time.