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  1. #11
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    it just going be a katana has weild anything else. did you see any scythic amoung those weapon no. plus he insane become a ascian drove him insane there also other who think it be templar job, i supect at end of ffxiv endwalker we killed him

    where in the lore does it mention reaper. you can claim in the palace of the dead i think yoshi p made clean we weren't going have any nermancer jobs
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    Last edited by Savagelf; 05-07-2021 at 04:50 AM.

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    MoofiaBossVal's Avatar
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    Kokoro Liliro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savagelf View Post
    it just going be a katana has weild anything else. did you see any scythic amoung those weapon no. plus he insane become a ascian drove him insane there also other who think it be templar job, i supect at end of ffxiv endwalker we killed him

    where in the lore does it mention reaper. you can claim in the palace of the dead i think yoshi p made clean we weren't going have any nermancer jobs
    A scythe job may or may not have anything to do with raising the dead like a traditional necromancer. Ran'jit wielded a scythe, but he didn't have any necromantic powers. On the other hand, Zenos' great grandfather, Emet-Selch, aka Hades, was renowned for being able to pull souls out of the lifestream. So Zenos being a scythe wielding necromancer could be a thematic nod to that.
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  3. #13
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    Ruin Darkstride
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savagelf View Post
    it just going be a katana has weild anything else. did you see any scythic amoung those weapon no. plus he insane become a ascian drove him insane there also other who think it be templar job, i supect at end of ffxiv endwalker we killed him

    where in the lore does it mention reaper. you can claim in the palace of the dead i think yoshi p made clean we weren't going have any nermancer jobs
    The weapon was actively hidden during the cutscene. That part of the room was kept out of sight. The camera angles show a lot of weapons but deliberately show little of the entire room.

    As for what Zenos will wield, it will not be a katana. He specifically says "there is one that I have been meaning to test", and Fandaniel responds with "well well, not quite what I was expecting". That dialogue would make no sense if he just picked up another katana. He's choosing something new to him.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkstride View Post
    Fandaniel responds with "well well, not quite what I was expecting". That dialogue would make no sense if he just picked up another katana.
    That means nothing. Fandaniel could just as reasonably have expected him to pick up anything but a katana, because the room was full of various weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rongway View Post
    That means nothing. Fandaniel could just as reasonably have expected him to pick up anything but a katana, because the room was full of various weapons.
    I don't think they would bother to specifically bring it up in conversation at the end of a patch cutscene if he was just going to pick up another katana. The dialogue with Zenos has been pretty clear that he is looking for something new.
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    WhyAmIHere's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeronia View Post
    Wait why does any major NPC have to even have the new job? Lyna was the only super important Dancer we saw in ShB and I would qualify her as support cast instead of a major npc.
    typically that's how it works, save Alisae becoming a RDM and Thancred (due to trust requirements more'n likely) becoming GNB.
    We know Alphinaud is going to become a Sage, so the precedent is there.
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    It's Luchador not reaper, my reasoning:
    - YoshiP said "not a sumo", why would he say that unless it's a different kind of wrestler?
    - Suplex has been a demanded move, which is a wrestling move. LB3, Suplex? We can finally meme the Phantom Train
    - Yes, hints point to Reaper, but we also have "Fandaniel" as a villain. Combining these two leads to "Grim Fandango" (my nickname for Fandaniel), which borrows a lot of Mexican folk lore in a Grim Reaping service. You know Koji Fox would sneak in a pun like "Grim Fandaniel".
    - It's a melee job, Luchador would be melee
    - It's a new job not present in the FF universe, Luchador has never existed in any FF titles
    - "What about maiming gear? You wouldn't see a Luchador in heavy armour" I hear the critics say. Armour King in the Tekken universe was a Luchador. The job could be based off of that aesthetic.
    - Last live letter? Lucha t-shirt.
    - More reaper hints? Carolina Reaper is a type of chilli pepper. You might put it in a chill con carne, a TexMex dish, tying because to a Mexican hint.
    - Yes, this means that Zenos picked up a Luchador mask at the end of 5.5


    Whilst it is a facetious prediction...I want it to happen. I would be more invested in this than Reaper and I was excited about the idea of a Reaper.
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    The point I was trying to make is we already know Alphinaud will be Sage so we have our job representation there, I see no reason to force the new melee on someone else just so it is represented. (Much like how no Scion became a Dancer.) I mean it will be Zenos if I have to guess but aside form him I don't need to see anymore more npc's with the job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saefinn View Post
    - Yes, this means that Zenos picked up a Luchador mask at the end of 5.5
    I would absolutely lose it if Zenos became a Luchador. I would come undone from laughing so hard. I want it, I need it.
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    Cullun Coppereye
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunniEclair View Post
    I would absolutely lose it if Zenos became a Luchador. I would come undone from laughing so hard. I want it, I need it.
    Turns out he was picking up a Chair and putting on the mask. He's become La Parka!
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