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    How is BLM?

    Trying to decide whether I should play Samurai or play a BLM. BLM looks pretty fun, from the gear to the big explosions but is it good right now? In PVP and PVE? Easy Rotation? Fun to play?

    Thanks in advance!
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    BLM is extremely good.
    The rotation isn't that complex, but it changes several times over the course of your levelling. And you have to pay attention to your timers to keep it steady.
    Since your goal is to move as little as possible, it'll be better to know the safe spots of fights pretty well to put down your leylines and stay in place to blast away.
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    Easy to learn. Hard to master.

    When you know the fight you know where to stand and just turret.
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    BLM is very fun to play, especially when you get Flare at lvl 50. BOOOOM!!
    I find BLM easy to learn because it's all about casting as much fire spells to use your mana then swapping to ice to regain mana. The spell interaction with the two stances change as you level up so theres a learning curve there.

    The hard part to master is learning to use your procs to instant cast spells so you can move around when rquired and not interupt your casting.
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    Good morning! Please explain what I am missing. Why is BLM considered easy to learn or even moderate in difficulty? It seems very hard to reach a base level of competency, considering the length of the opener alone!

    https://www.akhmorning.com/jobs/blm/...eners/#openers

    And the opener is something that can be memorized. I cannot imagine what happens when you have to then use a bunch of split-second decision-making for other stuff while using to tricks to squeeze out multiple Flares, unintuitive but brilliant ways to use low-level spells to take advantage of server ticks, etc.

    Seems hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCLouisGamer View Post
    Good morning! Please explain what I am missing. Why is BLM considered easy to learn or even moderate in difficulty?
    It really is easy to learn though. If played right you have infinite resources so you always want to be casting if you can(and since you usually cant cast while moving, that means standing still as much as you can). You use fire stance to do damage, ice stance to regen mana(your entire bar in 2 server ticks at higher levels) - switching back and forth throughout the fight. Theres one DoT you should maintain for additional damage. Different spells are used in different situations(fire 2 isnt an upgrade of fire 1 - its an aoe spell instead), so you need to learn what they do and when they should be used. And then at higher levels you get one buff to maintain(buffs damage and gives access to strongest spells), and a couple others to learn when to use(with a couple different effects). And thats the whole class. Mastery is harder, as there is a lot of optimizing that can be done in terms of when you use skills and learning fights to allow for the most uptime. But at its most basic you spam a fire spell to run out of mana, then use ice to get back to full before you repeat - thats pretty easy to pick up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCLouisGamer View Post
    Good morning! Please explain what I am missing. Why is BLM considered easy to learn or even moderate in difficulty? It seems very hard to reach a base level of competency, considering the length of the opener alone!

    https://www.akhmorning.com/jobs/blm/...eners/#openers

    And the opener is something that can be memorized. I cannot imagine what happens when you have to then use a bunch of split-second decision-making for other stuff while using to tricks to squeeze out multiple Flares, unintuitive but brilliant ways to use low-level spells to take advantage of server ticks, etc.

    Seems hard.
    Compare that to a SMN opener and you'll see why people say it's easier to pick up. Rotationally BLM is not very complex, the complexity comes in decision making of when to use your abilities to mantain casting.

    Essentially you want to fit as many Fire IV's into your Fire phase as possible, casting a Fire I when the enochian timer ticks to around 3-4 seconds, and despair when you can't cast any more Fire IV (usually at 800 MP). After that it's Blizzard 3, a sharpcast (the blizzard 3 casts quickly enough for you to weave sharpcast without clipping your GCD), then Blizz IV > Thunder IV > Fire III (I believe this is also a weave window) > Repeat Fire phase.

    The complexity is positioning yourself in such a way that you can cast Leylines as close to on cooldown as possible, and stay in them as close to their entire duration as possible as Leylines is a massive damage boost. Along with other things like only casting a single Fire I in your fire phase, not refreshing Thunder IV early without a damn good reason etc...

    There's a reason there's a massive discrepancy between top Black Mages and bottom black mages (I think it's actually the biggest DPS discrepancy of all classes?), and that's not because of rotational complexity, it's simply because you have to know the fight inside and out, so that you can map out all of your instacasts and leylines to maintain as much Fire IV spam as possible.
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    Last edited by LilyPendragon; 05-12-2021 at 02:27 AM.

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    All of you should write ads for FFXIV

    Now I am even more excited to try BLM! Thank you for clearing up my questions on BLM mechanics. I know there is more to learn but you definitely explained the toughest parts for me. I had no idea that only some of the Fire spells extend the astral timer.
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    You are looking at it the wrong way.
    You're looking at a raid optimized opener for a levelled up character, of course this'll look complicated because you don't know what the skills are. This is something you learn by playing.
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    Your best bet is to just try the jobs yourself and see how you like them. This game minimizes the investment for this, with how easy it is to switch between them.

    Don't worry about "meta" unless you're trying to join a world first raid group (But even if you were doing that, you'd want several jobs ready to go, not just one).
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