Scores on Frontline

[apophis13]

No idea, but it's something to do with Premades finding a way to all get on the same team despite the duty finder. No clue what they are doing, but they certainly are. It's become impossible for the pick up teams to win lately.

[Cidel]

No idea, but it's something to do with Premades finding a way to all get on the same team despite the duty finder. No clue what they are doing, but they certainly are. It's become impossible for the pick up teams to win lately.

I mean, if you have any substantial proof or evidence that they're gaming the system somehow to trick whatever sorting algorithm for team distribution aside from "that team has a lot of battle fevers," I'd like to hear/see it. I've heard this cry wolf to explain why one team seemingly does better than the others as a default excuse so much since the first Frontlines modes that I always take it with a grain of salt. I'm not saying its impossible, but I find it highly unlikely at this point in Frontlines after the universal forced freelancer. If it exists, I can't say it looks like a thing on Primal.

Let me ask you this. For 30 days in a row, in Frontline, I've lost every match due to the new exploit that Pre-Made teams are using. So, since the pick up group team is always going to lose, then why should they try? Does the pre-made team even care if the other teams try? Isn't the point that they want an easy, challenge free victory. Isn't that specifically why they are choosing to do the things that they do? What does it matter. I'm happy to play hard if I have a chance, but if there's no chance, why bother?

Then let me ask you this: why do you queue at all if it really is this way? If its really as hopeless as you insinuate that it is, how masochistic do you have to be to keep queuing just to actively throw the match? In the end you just waste the time and effort of others who might attempt to put up a fight by intentionally running to the enemy team to offer free kills. There's a difference between having no chance and actively being a detriment to the rest of your team.

[Divinemights]

I mean, if you have any substantial proof or evidence that they're gaming the system somehow to trick whatever sorting algorithm for team distribution aside from "that team has a lot of battle fevers," I'd like to hear/see it. I've heard this cry wolf to explain why one team seemingly does better than the others as a default excuse so much since the first Frontlines modes that I always take it with a grain of salt. I'm not saying its impossible, but I find it highly unlikely at this point in Frontlines after the universal forced freelancer. If it exists, I can't say it looks like a thing on Primal.



Then let me ask you this: why do you queue at all if it really is this way? If its really as hopeless as you insinuate that it is, how masochistic do you have to be to keep queuing just to actively throw the match? In the end you just waste the time and effort of others who might attempt to put up a fight by intentionally running to the enemy team to offer free kills. There's a difference between having no chance and actively being a detriment to the rest of your team.

You are talking to an alt avatar and crystal frontline ladder beside one bot, you don't see any irregular.
If what he is claiming is true, you would see there is a gap between game won on ladder; but there is not

[apophis13]

You are talking to an alt avatar and crystal frontline ladder beside one bot, you don't see any irregular.
If what he is claiming is true, you would see there is a gap between game won on ladder; but there is not

Did you grow up under powerlines or something? Why would a bot be complaining about fairness in an online PvP game?

The fact that I started a new character a few months ago and am leveling up the classes on this character is 100% immaterial to the discussion that we are having. So, if you can't stick to the topic at hand, perhaps you should see yourself out.

[apophis13]

I mean, if you have any substantial proof or evidence that they're gaming the system somehow to trick whatever sorting algorithm for team distribution aside from "that team has a lot of battle fevers," I'd like to hear/see it. I've heard this cry wolf to explain why one team seemingly does better than the others as a default excuse so much since the first Frontlines modes that I always take it with a grain of salt. I'm not saying its impossible, but I find it highly unlikely at this point in Frontlines after the universal forced freelancer. If it exists, I can't say it looks like a thing on Primal.



Then let me ask you this: why do you queue at all if it really is this way? If its really as hopeless as you insinuate that it is, how masochistic do you have to be to keep queuing just to actively throw the match? In the end you just waste the time and effort of others who might attempt to put up a fight by intentionally running to the enemy team to offer free kills. There's a difference between having no chance and actively being a detriment to the rest of your team.

No idea. I just know that about a month ago, I started losing every match. Now, I'm not saying that I'm good at PvP, but I did ok before that. Now, I lose every day, and my friends are telling me it's the same for them. I actually was having fun. Not sure what changed or what they are doing. But...mathematically, it's pretty uncertain to lose 30/30 matches.

As to your second question, I'm leveling my classes and doing the daily queues. Not sure what to say about that. Frontline isn't fun, but it gets you the better part of a level every run.

[apophis13]

I tell you what, though. I do this every day as part of my queues. I'll let you know if I win a match or if I even see a match that is close. I'm telling you. Mathematically, there's an exploit of some kind being used. Either that, or we've happened upon a circumstance is a 100 to 1 liklihood. Obviously, the former is more probable than the later. Occam's razer says that the premades are exploiting the system.

Edit: Correction. I pulled out my calculator. The probability of this occurrence is 0.000521509%, which can also be expressed as 1 in 191751. You have a better chance of winning jumbo cactpot Much less than 1 in a 100. I mean, maybe it's just luck, but, you know, that's pretty unlikely That's 2/3 (your likelihood of losing) to the power of 30. So, your likelihood of losing 30 times in a row is the number above, but, yet, it has happened

[Divinemights]

I tell you what, though. I do this every day as part of my queues. I'll let you know if I win a match or if I even see a match that is close. I'm telling you. Mathematically, there's an exploit of some kind being used. Either that, or we've happened upon a circumstance is a 100 to 1 liklihood. Obviously, the former is more probable than the later. Occam's razer says that the premades are exploiting the system.

Edit: Correction. I pulled out my calculator. The probability of this occurrence is 0.000521509%, which can also be expressed as 1 in 191751. You have a better chance of winning jumbo cactpot Much less than 1 in a 100. I mean, maybe it's just luck, but, you know, that's pretty unlikely That's 2/3 (your likelihood of losing) to the power of 30. So, your likelihood of losing 30 times in a row is the number above, but, yet, it has happened

The reason why I thinks you are posting from an alt Avatar:

All jobs at 60
No record showing on Crystal Frontline ladder
No record from PvPasia
Crystal Frontline is not showing irregularity of people playing with premade glitch and it looks like every other dataceter except you have a bot user took the first place.
Asking you to post your current week's result in order to validate, but you ignore that post and post here only and repeat the same thing.

I don't think there is a glitch in current match up.
It doesn't translate into everyone else is cheating just because you are always losing.
It doesn't mean that you are default with 33% winning chance..

[apophis13]

The reason why I thinks you are posting from an alt Avatar:

All jobs at 60
No record showing on Crystal Frontline ladder
No record from PvPasia
Crystal Frontline is not showing irregularity of people playing with premade glitch and it looks like every other dataceter except you have a bot user took the first place.
Asking you to post your current week's result in order to validate, but you ignore that post and post here only and repeat the same thing.

I don't think there is a glitch in current match up.
It doesn't translate into everyone else is cheating just because you are always losing.
It doesn't mean that you are default with 33% winning chance..

Yep, my character isn't at 80 yet. I'm working on it. Sorry this upsets you so much.

Personally, I think that you know what the glitch is in the current match up and don't want others to know about it. You mentioned on the other board that you know how to influence how the match ups work but didn't want to talk about it. Personally, I think that information would be far more interesting than how I choose to level up my character. I think that everyone would like to hear you expand upon this information.

[Divinemights]

Yep, my character isn't at 80 yet. I'm working on it. Sorry this upsets you so much.

Personally, I think that you know what the glitch is in the current match up and don't want others to know about it. You mentioned on the other board that you know how to influence how the match ups work but didn't want to talk about it. Personally, I think that information would be far more interesting than how I choose to level up my character. I think that everyone would like to hear you expand upon this information.

You are taking my word out of context to the next level
I am saying I am have strategy to improve my winning ratio, not the match up.
I am a known lone wolf player on Primal and I know how to manipulate people's Horde mindset to my advantage.
I am not interesting in teach that guy I am talking to because all he did is blame on S/E for his own issue.
Please get your fact straight.
There is no glitch in match up.
I won my game solo fair and straight.

[apophis13]

You are taking my word out of context to the next level
I am saying I am have strategy to improve my winning ratio, not the match up.
I am a known lone wolf player on Primal and I know how to manipulate people's Horde mindset to my advantage.
I am not interesting in teach that guy I am talking to because all he did is blame on S/E for his own issue.
Please get your fact straight.
There is no glitch in match up.
I won my game solo fair and straight.

Oh, well. Maybe I'm just absurdly unlucky. 1 in 100,000 unlucky. If there is a glitch, they'll find it and fix it. Until then, the match ups still give XP. I originally came to this board just trying to figure out what the heck was going on. I figured if there was a new exploit that everyone would be talking about it. I guess I could just be having a bad run. I wouldn't mind finishing my 100 wins or whatever, as I'm a third of the way there, but I'm more interested in leveling my classes. Guess we'll find out in time.