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  1. #21
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    You keep mentioning rewarding gil for doing stuff.

    Methinks first you should address how useless gil is for many players. You really have to try hard to stay broke. As long as there's no great incentive to spend gil, there's no real reason to do things that primarily just reward gil.
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  2. #22
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    Wasselin Kainz
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    There are a huge amount of rewards for playing out in the world. FATEs, Gathering, Beast-tribe quests, Hunts, Chocobo Leveling. I've been doing Shadowbringers FATEs lately and almost always run into other people doing them as well. I often shout "Hi" in zone chat and people usually reply. It's neat too how there are a bunch of quests that reuse old zones.

    Also, why is it that so many have something against players hanging out in cities? Most of the time in Final Fantasy I see people having fun in cities... listening to bards, dancing, showing off glamour, chatting... isn't that what the social interaction part of MMOs are about?
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  3. #23
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    Kissa Kotele
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    If they're going to adopt open world content from WoW, they should go for something similar to Archaeology. They even have a foundation with Chocobo Hot and Cold from ff9, they'd just need to flesh it out and build on the idea.
    That is a good idea, and they even have a working version of that in FFXI so it's not like they haven't had the idea implemented into an MMO format before either. Slap some interesting rewards and/or lore in there and that content would be good to go!
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  4. #24
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    Unless I am missing something when you enter a zone there is not something on the map that actually encourages you to want to leave a city.
    FATEs, to level alts, get bicolor gemstones, complete achievements, complete relics or other quests.
    Doing your main or side quests quests.
    Daily beast tribe quests (these give experience points already).
    Hunts (level 1, 2 and 3 bills give experience points already).
    Treasure maps.
    Gathering too.

    It looks like you are trying to bring a WoW solution to something that isn't even a problem in FFXIV. Since it's not a problem you seem to be trying to find a problem but there just obviously isn't one.
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    Last edited by Jeeqbit; 05-05-2021 at 12:59 PM.

  5. #25
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    Herstryp Cristin
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    Cactuar
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    The game has 0 Open World content, the only thing really are the Fates that currently only those of Shadowbringers contribute something (if you can call that something) and the Hunting that for the respawn time that the S Rank have I don't even try .

    The Sightseeing log seems like an insult to me because the updates give NOTHING, a dirty achievement.

    And no, you do not require World Quest in the world, but while I level up in Wow I have puzzles with cosmetics, rares with minions or mounts. Things like TESO would help a lot or even mounts like Sinrunner Blanchy that require a lot of open world activities, the game lacks secrets on the map, something that motivates even a little to explore it.
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    Last edited by Nayout; 05-05-2021 at 01:29 PM.

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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    FATEs, to level alts, get bicolor gemstones, complete achievements, complete relics or other quests.
    Doing your main or side quests quests.
    Daily beast tribe quests.
    Hunts.
    Treasure maps.
    Don't forget
    Levelling your Chocobo
    Gathering,
    Lots of one time activities like the sightseeing log, aethercurrents, learning BLU spells,
    Etc.
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  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nayout View Post
    The game has 0 Open World content, the only thing really are the Fates that currently only those of Shadowbringers contribute something (if you can call that something) and the Hunting that for the respawn time that the S Rank have I don't even try .
    For hunts, there are other ranks with shorter respawn times. Daily bills are done frequently by people wanting to level up, B ranks respawn in 5 seconds and A ranks respawn after several hours.

    You forgot maps, which are extremely popular content. I can't ever fly around in a Shadowbringers area without a party of people flying past me to do a map.
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  8. #28
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    Capybara Friend
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    For hunts, there are other ranks with shorter respawn times. Daily bills are done frequently by people wanting to level up, B ranks respawn in 5 seconds and A ranks respawn after several hours.
    Out of all the hunts, S ranks are the only somewhat interesting ones because you need to work for them by fulfilling specific conditions.

    There are things to do on the overworld, but they're very dull and boring and the rewards don't justify doing them.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    For hunts, there are other ranks with shorter respawn times. Daily bills are done frequently by people wanting to level up, B ranks respawn in 5 seconds and A ranks respawn after several hours.

    You forgot maps, which are extremely popular content. I can't ever fly around in a Shadowbringers area without a party of people flying past me to do a map.
    Mention the S Ranks because they are the only ones that interact with their environment, they are the only ones that require doing something to summon.



    The A Rank, B Rank or the daily hunts have nothing, you can go at the time you want, in the weather you want on the day you want and they will always be in the same places. They do not have any interaction, you do not need to do something on the map.

    The maps is another content that I do not mention because again, it is content that has no interaction with the map, you could perfectly do it in the city or in a closed place and it would have the same impact, you could put a blank map without finishing and not there would be no difference. Many Fates do have an impact on the map and require previous steps to make the chain work. Some even have a real impact on the map by showing NPCs that were not there before.
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    Last edited by Nayout; 05-05-2021 at 01:28 PM.

  10. #30
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nayout View Post
    The A Rank, B Rank or the daily hunts have nothing, you can go at the time you want, in the weather you want on the day you want and they will always be in the same places. They do not have any interaction, you do not need to do something on the map.

    The maps is another content that I do not mention because again, it is content that has no interaction with the map, you could perfectly do it in the city or in a closed place and it would have the same impact, you could put a blank map without finishing and not there would be no difference.
    How can you say it doesn't involve doing something in the map, when you need to go to the map to find the objectives?

    Do you want a reason to revisit places, or does it not make any difference whether you go there or do activities in an empty box?

    The argument seems to be "there's no content in the open world because I don't count any of the things you can do in the open world as content".
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