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    WaxSw's Avatar
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    Waxillium Larede
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RinaB View Post
    Have a had a healer pulling ahead when dps is terrible. How many times have I had a healer standing there dpsing, I die and hes quick to rez but can't heal. How many times have a had a healer complain about not pulling enough yet everyone is at 10% constantly while the idiot is dpsing. How many times have I had to rage quit because the healer won't heal at all. Theres a reason your job is getting pushed into pure and shield and you can blame yourselves.
    How many times I have had a tank not pulling more than 1 pack when trash fights are laughable and clearable with healer dps only and not realizing dps and healers getting a bit of damage is optimal. How many times have I had a tank standing there not mitigating and dps doing single target on pulls. How many times I've rez a tank/dps player for them to instantly attack and lose invulnerability without realizing that for a swiftcast rez they have to wait at least 4s to get a gcd heal unless I have a cooldown which in the case they die is unlikely. How many times I've had a tank or a dps healing themselves when their hp reach 50% when the only hp that matters is the last one and I have better heals planned for when they drop lower. How many times I've left duties because "you pull you tank" tanks. If we're justifying bad healer changes using player mistakes any job shoudnt have more than 2 buttons because everyone makes them and the playerbase's skill is in general terms nothing to write home about.
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    RocciaSolida's Avatar
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    Roccia Solida
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    Ragnarok
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    Bard Lv 100
    Give me healers that make me stay at 10% HP but do very good dps over heal bots that slow down the run any day of the week
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    Last edited by RocciaSolida; 05-15-2021 at 05:13 PM.

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    Side-Eye's Avatar
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    Braedyn Geld
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by RocciaSolida View Post
    Give me healers that make me stay at 10% HP but do very good dps over heal bots that slow down the run any day of the week
    Speaking from experience (have done runs keeping groupmates topped off, or letting their health slip down low before healing), I think most would disagree with you... when I've done DPS comparable to DPS classes while letting their health dip low, vs. keeping their health above 50% at the expense of competing with their DPS, I've invariably been rewarded more for focusing on their health -- so they can focus on damage output. Personally I believe most doing DPS jobs would prefer their healers to prioritize group health over personal DPS.
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    Player IceBlueNinja's Avatar
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    Blade Beoulve
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Side-Eye View Post
    Speaking from experience (have done runs keeping groupmates topped off, or letting their health slip down low before healing), I think most would disagree with you... when I've done DPS comparable to DPS classes while letting their health dip low, vs. keeping their health above 50% at the expense of competing with their DPS, I've invariably been rewarded more for focusing on their health -- so they can focus on damage output. Personally I believe most doing DPS jobs would prefer their healers to prioritize group health over personal DPS.
    This is so true, me who balance and do heal buff + dps still be outbeating the co healer dps bots, gear plays a small part but I seen where I still out dps better geared co healer green dps bots all the while keeping party top up or even beat a normal dps simply cause they learning the job and dont know its kit yet. Seen often many dps or tank lately who calls out on the dps green bot and I just be enjoying the show. Though rarely you do get them dps, tanks who have the nerves to wanna call out the healer about dpsing and this was my days when I began learning about healers and what not till I finally understood based on E1S why, but again that was in old days before shadow bringers, I balance of heal/buff/dps/res not just over heal or over dps. Also yes if sch/noct ast is pre actively shielding the team and whm/dirunal ast does a medica 2 aspect helios too (or whm can aslyum) to me you get more up time for dpsing vs keeping your team at 20% or below then having to waste a turn or two to be trying to repair damage where as actively the barrier person pops a shield before income damage then the regen one regens. Hmm I wonder why I dont simply just play a DPS if I want to do the biggest damage than everyone and not heal till 10%(being sarcastic on this cause I do everything but you know to the dps green bots ) Would love the day this question get answered. Lets team up when DC comes I will make sure your nice and top off so you dont have to use a vercure or clemency on yourself which is why you have the poor plds who have very low trust on healers and even clem in trash pulls .
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    Last edited by IceBlueNinja; 05-20-2021 at 12:39 AM.