Criticism of Shadowbringers and the hostility there in

[strawberrycake]

SHB has been praised by his story and his smooth release wich was the best by far on the history of the game but outside of that the game has been accumulating critics non stop.
The combat system simplification specially for healers and tanks SHB has been a poor expansion in terms of gameplay experience for them + a lack of combat content from casual to hardcore stuff with less dungeons, no deep duengeon, lack of pvp and just 1 ultimate we recive way less compared to other expansions.
Viera and roghtgar has suffer tons of crittics not only for his limited implementation but specially for the total lack of updates through the expansion patchs and in the end we didn't get anything that excuse the cuts they have been doing, so is not a joke when ppl has been calling this expansion Casualbringers, Budgetbringers, Crafterbingers ect ect ect, and covid just make everything more odvious by delaying everything 2 months.

From my perspective SHB promise much and fails in the process, smooth launch, acceptable story for me but outside of that has been a downhill in terms of gameplay experience and content delivery, i hope they learned and do better on Endwalker and its Devs doing and SE.

The expansion as a whole is cinematic, its pretty, very very pretty, but it lacks so much of the depth that we had prior. And its sad because a lot of people may not even feel or notice the changes made and why it feels bad or off, or wonky, why DRKs gameplay loops feels so similar to WARs or why BRD feels so dead and ruined. These are the things that keep people, especially since the story is only every 3 months.

[Infindox]

Not really. This game has a monthly subscription, we should be expecting a constant flow of content. We are paying for it. I don't get how that's "spoiled".

And

As someone who actively does all the content in the game, and has been since ARR, this expansion feels very empty by comparison

While I have my complaints towards the patches of ShB (not as much as I remember from SB patches to do) you have to keep in mind that, compaired to other MMOs, we get A LOT of stuff. Some of that stuff may not be to your liking, but we do get stuff. The only reason we had that long period without much was the pandemic happening.

[SturmChurro]

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While I have my complaints towards the patches of ShB (not as much as I remember from SB patches to do) you have to keep in mind that, compaired to other MMOs, we get A LOT of stuff. Some of that stuff may not be to your liking, but we do get stuff. The only reason we had that long period without much was the pandemic happening.

Other MMO's are too busy making their money off of their cash shop. Really the biggest reason. That's the only "content" they continuously release.

[kaynide]

I don’t know the exact numbers, and I could absolutely just not be remembering correctly... but it would be nice to see some figures on how much money the game pulls in profit wise, and how much of that is reinvested in the game.

We have to keep in mind that:
1) The sub price hasn’t increased since launch, while the value of the money has decreased with nearly 10ish years of inflation.
2) Just perusing the yearly FFXIV census, the overall total of active players hasn’t really increased (hovering between 6-700k players globally)
3) The cost of simply maintaining the game as it gets more content/bloat increases with age.

It just makes sense that they can’t keep up with what they used to do without an increase in pricing or utilizing something like the Mogstation.

All that said the game has been largely fantastic at keeping regularly scheduled updates and at least general interest when compared to games like Guildwars 2. While the gameplay engine isn’t nearly as good or varied as GW2, it does a lot right in areas regarding the schedule and general quality of releases.

While I wouldn’t mind a little more job complexity a la HW era, I don’t expect it..though I expect all my skill bars to be jacked up yet again..as they are with every expansion.

[VentVanitas]

The pandemic did not at all help when it came to droughts of content, pushed back content by months and some were either cut entirely or delayed for 6.0. I know for a lot of people who would've been trapped inside their homes that FFXIV would've been their only way to kill time and keep their sanity. So with that being said I don't wish to demean what others had experienced with ShB, but as I look back on the expansion, it really was just a story expac and nothing else. Sorry, but a redhead catboy can't keep my attention for two years. I can't forgive SE for what they did to my double TK.

[OzumaKuma]

Sometimes I wish they would segregate casual and hardcore players onto different servers. I know it's unrealistic and will probably never happen but it's nice to dream of a peaceful land where elitist gamers can tear into each other far far away from the casual chill base.

[Bhearil]

There are toxic people everywhere like the casual chill base "you dont play for my sub" kind whenever you offer them some advice just saying

[BaconBits]

Casuals are just as likely to tear into each other as elitists are lmao.

[Caurcas]

Sometimes I wish they would segregate casual and hardcore players onto different servers. I know it's unrealistic and will probably never happen but it's nice to dream of a peaceful land where elitist gamers can tear into each other far far away from the casual chill base.

Without the "elitist" the game would be unplayable. In short the whole gameplay economy is built up the backs of the "elitist" that you decry.

[Vahlnir]

Without the "elitist" the game would be unplayable. In short the whole gameplay economy is built up the backs of the "elitist" that you decry.

The game is catered largely to the casual player base, so I would disagree. But like every MMO, it takes all types to keep things running.