Can we get challenging 4-man content?

[Raikai]

So, there's that... Sometimes I feel that the dungeon aspect of the game is poorly explored. And while I love to do 8-man content with my FC, they're not a hardcore PVE, so our savage fights only happens once a week.

It would be amazing if we could have a chance for some kind of Dungeon Savage mode, or something that would offer a challenge for small parties, since it's way easier to fix people for that outside of your main raiding days.

Not asking for a copy of the Mythic+ system in World of Warcraft, but at this rate I'd take anything, since there is zero incentive to run dungeons outside of the 2 daily roulettes for the tomestones. Can't even say "for the fun of it", because it's so brain-dead at some point, that it's hard to see any actual challenge to be fun.

[Baxcel]

Have you tried doing rathalos Ex synced?

[strawberrycake]

So, there's that... Sometimes I feel that the dungeon aspect of the game is poorly explored. And while I love to do 8-man content with my FC, they're not a hardcore PVE, so our savage fights only happens once a week.

It would be amazing if we could have a chance for some kind of Dungeon Savage mode, or something that would offer a challenge for small parties, since it's way easier to fix people for that outside of your main raiding days.

Not asking for a copy of the Mythic+ system in World of Warcraft, but at this rate I'd take anything, since there is zero incentive to run dungeons outside of the 2 daily roulettes for the tomestones. Can't even say "for the fun of it", because it's so brain-dead at some point, that it's hard to see any actual challenge to be fun.

Can't find the interview but, Yoshi P said he wants to do harder 4 man content, its something hes looking into, so its a possibility for Endwalker!

[JisKing98]

The rathalos ex is a 4 man raid that's pretty challenging. Plus you can get a cool mount as well.

[Jaelommiss]

Have you tried upper level potd and hoh? Floors 150+ / 70+ are a ton of fun if you're working with a skilled team over discord. The RNG adds a reactive element that's notably absent from most of this game. Only downside is that it takes a few hours grinding through lower floors to get to the exciting parts.

If you care about the current relic then potd is helpful there, too. Roughly 8 Timeworn Artifacts going from 51-200.

[ReynTime]

Can't find the interview but, Yoshi P said he wants to do harder 4 man content, its something hes looking into, so its a possibility for Endwalker!

This is great news.

I agree with the OP, although I'm not really looking for savage-level difficulty. It feels right now that outside the Bozja "dungeons" only Extreme trials appeal to what's between casual and hardcore content so I'd rather have more on that level.

[Axxion]

Have you tried doing rathalos Ex synced?

assuming he means dungeons and not trial that are Collab's.

[Infindox]

I would like to see harder dungeons, but I want to keep them puggable.

[CKNovel]

I'm definitely for it.

We got Duels for 1v1, why not 4 players hard dungeons?

[Equitable_Remedy]

As someone who really enjoys M+ in WoW, I would love to see some harder 4-man content—maybe something like dungeon EX or S could be cool. (I don't think that the timed aspect of M+ would work well in FF14 at all.)

One real difficultly is where it would fit in FF14's gearing scheme, which is very tight and well defined. EX/S dungeons would have to compete with other gear sources rather than replace them or the entire gearing map would need to be reworked, and both of those are really big challenges. They're even bigger challenges if, like M+ in WoW, the harder content was scalable (which would be cool).

tldr Sign me up for harder dungeon/4-man content, but recognize the really difficult design challenges associated with that content in FF14