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    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Petition: Remove EX Trials from Mentor Roulette

    We all know this needs to happen. Mentorship is not meant to carry people through content they have no business being in, it is meant to assist new players through the basics of the game, which EX trials aren't a part of. EX Trials, as defined by SE themselves, are high end content. They are the entry point to the hardest content in the game, and some are even more difficult than equivalent timed high end raids. As such they go well beyond what is the basics of the game, that Mentorship is meant for. As such they have no business being in Mentor Roulette, and removing them would help maintain Mentors staying for Mentor Roulette and see more of them doing it
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    Only if they also remove guildhests
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    This comes up at least once a month. Don't hold your breath.
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    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    This comes up at least once a month. Don't hold your breath.
    Then it's a known recurring issue, and something should clearly be done to solve it
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    Mentor roulette is there not only to help que, but also meant for Mentors to you know mentor people. Are some EX trials harder to teach people? Yes of course. Doesn't mean you shouldn't at least try. Many mentors leave because they don't want to try to teach people how to clear those fights. They also seem to be the ones that just want the easiest so they don't have to actually teach stuff for the mount.

    Part of the reason there is a lower amount of people trying harder content is due to no one wanting to teach them. Even if they use the PF there not a whole lot of those willing to join and do these fights without doing them unsynced. Especially for farming them for mounts.
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    Geistherz Gungnir
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    Rather than removing Ex Content, SE should rework the current mentor system completely.

    Its kinda unreal, that mentors are mostly known as the worst and most toxic players in the FFXIV community. The beginners chat is full of useless smalltalk, misinformation, spoilers and even scam links (happened a few weeks ago).

    Of course, skilled and helpful mentors also exist. But they are pretty rare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    We all know this needs to happen. Mentorship is not meant to carry people through content they have no business being in, it is meant to assist new players through the basics of the game, which EX trials aren't a part of. EX Trials, as defined by SE themselves, are high end content. They are the entry point to the hardest content in the game, and some are even more difficult than equivalent timed high end raids. As such they go well beyond what is the basics of the game, that Mentorship is meant for. As such they have no business being in Mentor Roulette, and removing them would help maintain Mentors staying for Mentor Roulette and see more of them doing it
    Mentors aren't supposed to only help with the basics of the game. Mentors are supposed to help other players when and if they are able to, with no content specifically excluded.

    EX Trials being, as you say, the entry point to the harder parts of the game, are very much in need of people willing to teach new players how to beat them - which pretty much describes what mentors should be.
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    Maybe they should just remove mentors
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    Yxiah Eruyt
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    We all know this needs to happen. Mentorship is not meant to carry people through content they have no business being in, it is meant to assist new players through the basics of the game, which EX trials aren't a part of. EX Trials, as defined by SE themselves, are high end content. They are the entry point to the hardest content in the game, and some are even more difficult than equivalent timed high end raids. As such they go well beyond what is the basics of the game, that Mentorship is meant for. As such they have no business being in Mentor Roulette, and removing them would help maintain Mentors staying for Mentor Roulette and see more of them doing it
    Good luck with that!
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    Msq in mentor roulette must go!
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