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  1. #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by StormyFae View Post
    No its called basically punishing everyone, because stupid moron parents have to shove there kids on everyone and everything which has honestly destoryed just about everything
    No we have to account for, monitor, and maybe even raise other peoples kids, so all the virtue signalers and morality police can be happy, every meme, joke, conversation has to now be made family friendly. Taking a shower? family friendly, changing out of your work clothes? make it family, friendly. /s

    My sarcasm aside I dont blame you, I personally dislike being near children, and for what its worth in the off chance a kid is playing this and not fortnite, their parents should watch them, monitor them, keep them away from others. Cuz while GMs may temp ban you for swearing, the profanity filter is enabled by default, if its off thats on YOUR KID, if your child joins an FC and engages in adult conversation, thats on YOUR KID, if they're really out here dming people on Discord for feet pics, thats an issue with you and your kid, Not the world.

    By the logic presented here kids shouldn't be on discord, reddit, youtube,tiktok, they shouldn't be on the internet period. To expect every space to care about your kid is p funny, especially in an online game, no ones gonna stop, SE is already bad about enforcing half their own ToS cuz its a grey area, and any other MMO would literally just tell you to watch your kid, in fact,most have it on loading screens thats if you;re under 16-18, have your guardian with you, XIV is the black sheep in that regard. If they can't cover they're own ToS half the time, don't expect adults minding their own business to.

    Edit: Also to make matters even more funnier, if kids are so precious, why are they unattended baseline in a game online, alone, with out parental supervision. How is this anyone elses problem, if the parents can't even be bothered to keep an eye on their own impersionalable kids, who are obviously so fragile, obviously so in need of sheltering from the world. Cuz trust me, if they dont see feet fetish stuff on FF they're probably looking into on their own, a friend showeed them it, or they've seen it on reddit, tik tok, youtube, discord.. again it writes itself. Keep kids off of online games and the internet if these things can;t stand up to dated moral grandstanding.
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  2. #112
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    Quote Originally Posted by StormyFae View Post
    Mean while, out of avarage 20 plus of those "kid/teen" are pregnant before 18 plus" honestly those laws are so old fashion they need to moded some how, because honestly i bet everyone here and even currently irl were basicly more adult than most adults its not the 1800 hundreds anymore .. Hell i watched hellraiser and wish master when in was ten and most it did was make me love demon guys honestly wanting people to care much when statsticly there are more pregnant Teens than 20/30s is kind of funny

    And the funny part is the same ppl who say oh dont have adult settings in teen games, cuz the children turn around and scream charge them as an adult over a crime.. And turn a blind eye to their kids getting pregnant.

    The cold truth is this grooming nonsense is just that nonsense.. You, i, everyone was not innocent when we were teens, so why put on your shaders and pretend current ones are, when overall they less innocent than we all were.
    God its like saying alchole is bad and to adult for teens but pretending you dont know your teen like you will go behind your back and get it and go to a party.. This pretending nonsense "adults" have needs to stop. .. Its honestly insulting teens which in another wording young adults, oh of you break a law your charged as an adult, oh you can drive this machine.. But you have no adult rights and your not one.. Or Oh your going to watch your younger sibling, but yout not an adult but we going to make you do an adults dutys and get work. Is rlly how ppl are.. And honestly in and of itself is hypocritical and wrong.
    Well yes, I wasn't innocent as a teen and I was also underaged drinker, when I got ID'd once, one of my school teachers who was there actually bought our drinks for us because despite obviously being underaged, we were responsible. That teacher would probably have been arrested if caught.

    And my parents let me grow up on all kinds of things that aren't teen rated, that was their decision as parents and it didn't negatively affect me. But the library wouldn't let me check out any Stephen King novels, I couldn't buy the Silence of the Lambs movie and rightly so. Arguably there is a range of maturity among minors and there are aspects in which they are still vulnerable, so in this respect a business probably shouldn't be making that call and the law is meant to account or that when they set when somebody is legally an adult.

    And this is still a teen rated game with minors. The devs have to take a stance on this one to keep on the right side of the law regardless of what moral argument you can make. Because ultimately, the court isn't going to look in favour of somebody soliciting lewd pictures to minors (not that I think feet are lewd, I know people are doing this for the memes) or if engaging in virtual sexual activity with minors.
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saefinn View Post
    not that I think feet are lewd
    And yet podophilia - pronounced sexual interest in feet - is one of the most common sexual fetishes. And with full release - over a printed photo or progressing to a real foot, it's quite lewd for those who have it.
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  4. #114
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    People who are complaining that they're expected to babysit other people's kids are clearly unable to babysit themselves. If you can't hold back your sexual urges in an environment that has minors then you should not be playing ANY game that welcomes minors.

    Basic decency is not too much to expect from someone.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    And yet podophilia - pronounced sexual interest in feet - is one of the most common sexual fetishes. And with full release - over a printed photo or progressing to a real foot, it's quite lewd for those who have it.
    But I don't have podophilia, so the statement is correct, I don't find feet to be lewd. And I don't think the people doing it are trying to be lewd. I was just acknowledging the reasoning is for meme purposes not for lewdness. Though not a statement on whether I think it should be there or not, but just a semantic difference between people meming and people openly sharing their fetishes.

    I've not seen what people actually send, so maybe I am too hasty to give them that credit.

    But I am aware podophilia exists, I made a joke about Tarantino's podophilia earlier in reference to how we get a Tarantino shot of god Kefka's feet.
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    I'm dumb and posted in the wrong place, ignore meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saefinn View Post
    But I don't have podophilia, so the statement is correct, I don't find feet to be lewd.
    No, neither do I, yet incidence of Podophilia is around 17% of males, so it's far from a meme - which seems to be the justification people have for it being there. It's not a meme, it's sexual activity.
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  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saefinn View Post
    Well yes, I wasn't innocent as a teen and I was also underaged drinker, when I got ID'd once, one of my school teachers who was there actually bought our drinks for us because despite obviously being underaged, we were responsible. That teacher would probably have been arrested if caught.

    And my parents let me grow up on all kinds of things that aren't teen rated, that was their decision as parents and it didn't negatively affect me. But the library wouldn't let me check out any Stephen King novels, I couldn't buy the Silence of the Lambs movie and rightly so. Arguably there is a range of maturity among minors and there are aspects in which they are still vulnerable, so in this respect a business probably shouldn't be making that call and the law is meant to account or that when they set when somebody is legally an adult.

    And this is still a teen rated game with minors. The devs have to take a stance on this one to keep on the right side of the law regardless of what moral argument you can make. Because ultimately, the court isn't going to look in favour of somebody soliciting lewd pictures to minors (not that I think feet are lewd, I know people are doing this for the memes) or if engaging in virtual sexual activity with minors.
    Expect they arent even hell Eulmore has a strip club, ff7 orginal the the don literally had a sex dungeon, even in the re literally don runs a brothel
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    No we have to account for, monitor, and maybe even raise other peoples kids, so all the virtue signalers and morality police can be happy, every meme, joke, conversation has to now be made family friendly. Taking a shower? family friendly, changing out of your work clothes? make it family, friendly. /s

    My sarcasm aside I dont blame you, I personally dislike being near children, and for what its worth in the off chance a kid is playing this and not fortnite, their parents should watch them, monitor them, keep them away from others. Cuz while GMs may temp ban you for swearing, the profanity filter is enabled by default, if its off thats on YOUR KID, if your child joins an FC and engages in adult conversation, thats on YOUR KID, if they're really out here dming people on Discord for feet pics, thats an issue with you and your kid, Not the world.

    By the logic presented here kids shouldn't be on discord, reddit, youtube,tiktok, they shouldn't be on the internet period. To expect every space to care about your kid is p funny, especially in an online game, no ones gonna stop, SE is already bad about enforcing half their own ToS cuz its a grey area, and any other MMO would literally just tell you to watch your kid, in fact,most have it on loading screens thats if you;re under 16-18, have your guardian with you, XIV is the black sheep in that regard. If they can't cover they're own ToS half the time, don't expect adults minding their own business to.

    Edit: Also to make matters even more funnier, if kids are so precious, why are they unattended baseline in a game online, alone, with out parental supervision. How is this anyone elses problem, if the parents can't even be bothered to keep an eye on their own impersionalable kids, who are obviously so fragile, obviously so in need of sheltering from the world. Cuz trust me, if they dont see feet fetish stuff on FF they're probably looking into on their own, a friend showeed them it, or they've seen it on reddit, tik tok, youtube, discord.. again it writes itself. Keep kids off of online games and the internet if these things can;t stand up to dated moral grandstanding.
    Think it has something to do with kids having poor judgement or something and as adults we must protect children. Kids are responsible yet not responsible for the actions the commit as a child cause they do not understand consequences of their actions or something. So as well adjusted adults we must educate other people’s children.

    Or so I have been told.
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  10. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by StormyFae View Post
    Expect they arent even hell Eulmore has a strip club, ff7 orginal the the don literally had a sex dungeon, even in the re literally don runs a brothel
    And how explicit are these? A lot of the stuff in FF7 is fade-to-black or convenient camera positions. In Eulmore nobody strips or even gets a lapdance, but it is inferred that it's a strip club.

    As I've said before teen rated content can have adult themes BUT it is about it is presented and it's depth and how appropriately it is done

    It's not Hello Kitty Island Adventure, they're not catering to children, so a teen audience is mature enough to deal with such themes and teen content is allowed to do that, but none of those things are presented in an 18+ way...otherwise they'd have an 18+ rating.

    This is the important detail.
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