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  1. #81
    Player Rinhi's Avatar
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    Rinh Neftereh
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    I thought it was quite obvious that Merhouse is trolling (even if he's correct and based) and even more obvious that StormyFae is the new account of what's his face? The guy that also did the Astrologian topics with the thousand icons and diddle-daddles, BeautyAstrologian or something?
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  2. #82
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    Rosenoire's Avatar
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    Galqar Haragin
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    You missed the point of the statement. All those story beats you listed were rated by the ESRB as T, and approved by SE. Fetish PF listings haven't. Furthermore, do you know what static means? That's right non-changing. All those story beats and dungeons are code that does not change, where as player interacting with other players can lead to insidious things happening in the the real world facilitated through the game. Use thy brain.
    And you missed my point, which is that the story of the game, rating or no, deals with adult content and serious topics like sexual assault. Explain how someone putting up a PF that literally says "Contact me for feet pix" is going to damage the poor, innocent children whose parents apparently think it's cool for them to play a game where hookers roll their marks in darkened stairwells?

    The "oh, but the children!" pearl-clutching is silly. It's not my job as a player to make things comfortable for other people's kids. If you don't want to see the fetish ads, use thy blacklist button.
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    Last edited by Rosenoire; 04-27-2021 at 04:50 PM. Reason: added

  3. #83
    Player Caurcas's Avatar
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    Caur Kagon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenoire View Post
    And you missed my point, which is that the story of the game, rating or no, deals with adult content and serious topics like sexual assault. Explain how someone putting up a PF that literally says "Contact me for feet pix" is going to damage the poor, innocent children whose parents apparently think it's cool for them to play a game where hookers roll their marks in darkened stairwells?

    The "oh, but the children!" pearl-clutching is silly. It's not my job as a player to make things comfortable for other people's kids. If you don't want to see the fetish ads, use thy blacklist button.
    So SE should just kick back and let underage players get exploited by adults? This almost reads like a defense of grooming.
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  4. #84
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    ... or people could just not put up fetish ads in a rated T adventure game.
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  5. #85
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    Mykll's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaoru_Nagisa View Post
    Go outside. Touch some grass. You'll feel better, I promise.
    But only with your naked feet of course.
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  6. #86
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    Saefinn's Avatar
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    Yesunova Hotgo
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTF-Taru View Post
    Sounds to me like you're lick toes intolerant.
    I'll admit...that gave me a chuckle and I hate it.

    Quote Originally Posted by StormyFae View Post
    A. Not our proplem and b. There is a way discord ask for a driver id with pic and date visable then to allow in force it with pic near face lol even if that had a point this is a fantasy game not real life

    Parents shouldnt let their minors play the game anways so rlly thats noones proplem but the stupid parents
    Whilst I'll happily defend people who ERP and have. Ultimately it's a teen rated game and for all the outfits you can get it it manages to keep that teen rating. Mature themes can still happen in teen rated content but there is a limit to what that can be and how it is presented. Given they keep their teen rating, they're obviously keeping within those walls enough, but that doesn't mean because there are adult themes done in a teen friendly way that they get pushed to a teen unfriendly way.

    But yes, parents are going to let their kids play the teen rated game.

    However, it is your problem. If you're found ERPing with a minor and somebody goes to the police? How will it stack up in court? The law often will treat the adult as the responsible party. They won't hold the parents responsible for letting them play an age appropriate game, they won't hold the kid responsible because they're a minor, they won't hold SE responsible if they have covered themselves legally (which arguably, the ToS does, because it prohibits illegal activity). Even if it's a fantasy game and not real life, Cybersex is still considered an issue, which ERP could easily be interpreted as.

    YoshiP also plainly said in an interview to report in game brothels, he said there is an issue with that sort of thing legally and pointed to the part of the ToS that talks about the law. And said they'd investigate them and that they have legal support for most countries when investigating them.

    This is why people have an issue with it being publicly advertised. Me personally, I see no issue of all parties know for certain that they're adults and do it all privately. Openly advertising it, whilst seeing it doesn't bother me, I recognise the potential risks for minors and potential legal issues for that, so it is probably better than the PF isn't filled with stuff that contradicts the game's age rating.

    Whilst to a degree you can put up adult content walls, there's ways around it, horny teenagers aren't necessarily going to be honest about their age. And the law will still tend to hold the adult responsible. Discord's feature there might help, but then my argument then would be, if you must advertise, do it through Discord.

    I'm a regular RPer, a LOT of RP advertisements are done on Discord.
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  7. #87
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    Nightroad's Avatar
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    Linu La'neral
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    You know , considering our feet in this game do not have toes and are always wearing sandals, i can understand some poor soul feeling offended by real feet.

    Unless of course this is all a troll tread.....

    In which case : Do not feet the troll !
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  8. #88
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    Silica-chan's Avatar
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    Rena Kangawa
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightroad View Post

    Unless of course this is all a troll tread.....
    It probably is given that after supposedly being reported twice the person in question is still doing the advertising.
    Therefore I believe it is safe to assume the GM Team does not see an issue / ToS violation with them.
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  9. #89
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    Khloe Entialpoh
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    It's because the feet pics are for a GM
    they are working hard for the money, selling their body for RMT to a GM
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  10. #90
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    LianaThorne's Avatar
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenoire View Post
    It's not my job as a player to make things comfortable for other people's kids.
    Another person with flawed logic.
    Here's the thing. It is your job since you agreed to the ToS stating you would act in a manner appropriate to 13+ players (INCLUDING ages 13-17). It is technically BOTH the player and parents responsibility actually (players to act appropriately & parents to have some sort of moderation over their kids activities).

    Plenty of kids DO receive proper attention and moderation from their parents but THAT DOES NOT give you the right to violate the ToS either or act inappropriately in a game that includes minors. You made it your responsibility when you joined the game and agreed to the rules. I'm struggling to understand why you think you don't have any and if it's because you just don't want to....then buddy....don't play FF14. If you want a fully 18+ game where you can literally do whatever you want (from selling your body to fucking in public) and dodge responsibility....go play Second Life. They literally don't give a shit what goes down in there.

    Defending the rules of the game or stating the legitimate fact that kids can be groomed and preyed upon by adults in any situation/game isn't pearl clutching, it's literal reality. Speaking from someone who has seen it go down in other games, one in particular had a guild that would cover up anything that went down with them that involved their leadership engaging in predator and pedophile like behavior (I was not a part of it but quit the game as soon as someone on their side leaked what they were doing). Might want to wake up to that fact instead of pretending we're all just Karens or "pearl clutchers" for stating it.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 04-27-2021 at 08:40 PM.

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