How is fetish advertizing not a bannable offense?

[Rosenoire]

Bro, the content is static. Interactions with other players are not. Nobody is offended at the game's content. It's the players unable to control themselves or act normal in a space that has underage players that is the problem.

You're really going with "think of the children" in a game where the first dungeon has you killing pirates who are keeping women as sex slaves, fighting an evil empire that sets up concentration camps and forces women into prostitution, and a major NPC's backstory involves being sold to a brothel? Compared to what happens in the actual game world, I feel like someone advertising foot fetish pics in Party Finder is positively wholesome--especially since you can blacklist them and don't have to see the posts.

[Caurcas]

You're really going with "think of the children" in a game where the first dungeon has you killing pirates who are keeping women as sex slaves, fighting an evil empire that sets up concentration camps and forces women into prostitution, and a major NPC's backstory involves being sold to a brothel? Compared to what happens in the actual game world, I feel like someone advertising foot fetish pics in Party Finder is positively wholesome--especially since you can blacklist them and don't have to see the posts.

You missed the point of the statement. All those story beats you listed were rated by the ESRB as T, and approved by SE. Fetish PF listings haven't. Furthermore, do you know what static means? That's right non-changing. All those story beats and dungeons are code that does not change, where as player interacting with other players can lead to insidious things happening in the the real world facilitated through the game. Use thy brain.

[Rosenoire]

You missed the point of the statement. All those story beats you listed were rated by the ESRB as T, and approved by SE. Fetish PF listings haven't. Furthermore, do you know what static means? That's right non-changing. All those story beats and dungeons are code that does not change, where as player interacting with other players can lead to insidious things happening in the the real world facilitated through the game. Use thy brain.

And you missed my point, which is that the story of the game, rating or no, deals with adult content and serious topics like sexual assault. Explain how someone putting up a PF that literally says "Contact me for feet pix" is going to damage the poor, innocent children whose parents apparently think it's cool for them to play a game where hookers roll their marks in darkened stairwells?

The "oh, but the children!" pearl-clutching is silly. It's not my job as a player to make things comfortable for other people's kids. If you don't want to see the fetish ads, use thy blacklist button.

[Caurcas]

And you missed my point, which is that the story of the game, rating or no, deals with adult content and serious topics like sexual assault. Explain how someone putting up a PF that literally says "Contact me for feet pix" is going to damage the poor, innocent children whose parents apparently think it's cool for them to play a game where hookers roll their marks in darkened stairwells?

The "oh, but the children!" pearl-clutching is silly. It's not my job as a player to make things comfortable for other people's kids. If you don't want to see the fetish ads, use thy blacklist button.

So SE should just kick back and let underage players get exploited by adults? This almost reads like a defense of grooming.

[LianaThorne]

It's not my job as a player to make things comfortable for other people's kids.

Another person with flawed logic.
Here's the thing. It is your job since you agreed to the ToS stating you would act in a manner appropriate to 13+ players (INCLUDING ages 13-17). It is technically BOTH the player and parents responsibility actually (players to act appropriately & parents to have some sort of moderation over their kids activities).

Plenty of kids DO receive proper attention and moderation from their parents but THAT DOES NOT give you the right to violate the ToS either or act inappropriately in a game that includes minors. You made it your responsibility when you joined the game and agreed to the rules. I'm struggling to understand why you think you don't have any and if it's because you just don't want to....then buddy....don't play FF14. If you want a fully 18+ game where you can literally do whatever you want (from selling your body to fucking in public) and dodge responsibility....go play Second Life. They literally don't give a shit what goes down in there.

Defending the rules of the game or stating the legitimate fact that kids can be groomed and preyed upon by adults in any situation/game isn't pearl clutching, it's literal reality. Speaking from someone who has seen it go down in other games, one in particular had a guild that would cover up anything that went down with them that involved their leadership engaging in predator and pedophile like behavior (I was not a part of it but quit the game as soon as someone on their side leaked what they were doing). Might want to wake up to that fact instead of pretending we're all just Karens or "pearl clutchers" for stating it.

[Penthea]

If you don't want to see the fetish ads, use thy blacklist button.

This literally doesn't work because blacklisting doesn't prevent seeing future violations of the ToS by other players. Blacklisting doesn't work like an ad blocker. I'm sure you know this but you like to fall back on that flawed solution to defend your position.

It's not my job as a player to make things comfortable for other people's kids.

Another person with flawed logic.
Here's the thing. It is your job since you agreed to the ToS stating you would act in a manner appropriate to 13+ players (INCLUDING ages 13-17).

And it's mandatory to accept the ToS in order to be able to play this game. Every single one of us have agreed to the terms SE set.

As for the contents of the game...SE tightly controls how controversial and sensitive topics are portrayed. They make sure they are shown in a way appropriate for minors. For content relating to sexual activity we only get story elements that point to those things happening, we are never given the intimate details about them nor are we ever shown a scene of the incident. Seeing a npc talk about how their father was a cruel person who took advantage of a war to have his way with a woman is not an invitation to in any way rp the act of doing that in every single detail. Because by doing that you are being very explicit and portraying that sort of situation in that manner is a violation of the ToS. Alluding to a certain thing happening is NOT the same as seeing it happen right in front of you.

If a person is incapable of acting in a manner that abides by the ToS then they should not be playing this game at all. It is not difficult to take your sexual content elsewhere. If a person finds this difficult to do then frankly they need professional help.