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    Quote Originally Posted by StormyFae View Post
    Never implyed at all just stating the fact.. That you shouldnt expect it to not be in the game, when the game itself gets money out of what they know ppl fetished.. Im not saying its wrong or that i do it however its funny as hell seeing what i can guess is sjw moron throwing a fit over what is there its a fantasy game dont like it uninstall.. Seriously you people who get like this are why games like diablo 2 are being destroyed and ruined..

    And for ur info merhouse im married, and i knew from the start the game would have it BECAUSE ITS RATED FOR SEXUAL content lol

    Im willing to bet its only the euro/american servers that have a proplem with it in general since anymore euro and american is crybaby over everything
    Bro, the content is static. Interactions with other players are not. Nobody is offended at the game's content. It's the players unable to control themselves or act normal in a space that has underage players that is the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    Bro, the content is static. Interactions with other players are not. Nobody is offended at the game's content. It's the players unable to control themselves or act normal in a space that has underage players that is the problem.
    You're really going with "think of the children" in a game where the first dungeon has you killing pirates who are keeping women as sex slaves, fighting an evil empire that sets up concentration camps and forces women into prostitution, and a major NPC's backstory involves being sold to a brothel? Compared to what happens in the actual game world, I feel like someone advertising foot fetish pics in Party Finder is positively wholesome--especially since you can blacklist them and don't have to see the posts.
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    Player Caurcas's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenoire View Post
    You're really going with "think of the children" in a game where the first dungeon has you killing pirates who are keeping women as sex slaves, fighting an evil empire that sets up concentration camps and forces women into prostitution, and a major NPC's backstory involves being sold to a brothel? Compared to what happens in the actual game world, I feel like someone advertising foot fetish pics in Party Finder is positively wholesome--especially since you can blacklist them and don't have to see the posts.
    You missed the point of the statement. All those story beats you listed were rated by the ESRB as T, and approved by SE. Fetish PF listings haven't. Furthermore, do you know what static means? That's right non-changing. All those story beats and dungeons are code that does not change, where as player interacting with other players can lead to insidious things happening in the the real world facilitated through the game. Use thy brain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    You missed the point of the statement. All those story beats you listed were rated by the ESRB as T, and approved by SE. Fetish PF listings haven't. Furthermore, do you know what static means? That's right non-changing. All those story beats and dungeons are code that does not change, where as player interacting with other players can lead to insidious things happening in the the real world facilitated through the game. Use thy brain.
    And you missed my point, which is that the story of the game, rating or no, deals with adult content and serious topics like sexual assault. Explain how someone putting up a PF that literally says "Contact me for feet pix" is going to damage the poor, innocent children whose parents apparently think it's cool for them to play a game where hookers roll their marks in darkened stairwells?

    The "oh, but the children!" pearl-clutching is silly. It's not my job as a player to make things comfortable for other people's kids. If you don't want to see the fetish ads, use thy blacklist button.
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    Last edited by Rosenoire; 04-27-2021 at 04:50 PM. Reason: added

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenoire View Post
    And you missed my point, which is that the story of the game, rating or no, deals with adult content and serious topics like sexual assault. Explain how someone putting up a PF that literally says "Contact me for feet pix" is going to damage the poor, innocent children whose parents apparently think it's cool for them to play a game where hookers roll their marks in darkened stairwells?

    The "oh, but the children!" pearl-clutching is silly. It's not my job as a player to make things comfortable for other people's kids. If you don't want to see the fetish ads, use thy blacklist button.
    So SE should just kick back and let underage players get exploited by adults? This almost reads like a defense of grooming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenoire View Post
    It's not my job as a player to make things comfortable for other people's kids.
    Another person with flawed logic.
    Here's the thing. It is your job since you agreed to the ToS stating you would act in a manner appropriate to 13+ players (INCLUDING ages 13-17). It is technically BOTH the player and parents responsibility actually (players to act appropriately & parents to have some sort of moderation over their kids activities).

    Plenty of kids DO receive proper attention and moderation from their parents but THAT DOES NOT give you the right to violate the ToS either or act inappropriately in a game that includes minors. You made it your responsibility when you joined the game and agreed to the rules. I'm struggling to understand why you think you don't have any and if it's because you just don't want to....then buddy....don't play FF14. If you want a fully 18+ game where you can literally do whatever you want (from selling your body to fucking in public) and dodge responsibility....go play Second Life. They literally don't give a shit what goes down in there.

    Defending the rules of the game or stating the legitimate fact that kids can be groomed and preyed upon by adults in any situation/game isn't pearl clutching, it's literal reality. Speaking from someone who has seen it go down in other games, one in particular had a guild that would cover up anything that went down with them that involved their leadership engaging in predator and pedophile like behavior (I was not a part of it but quit the game as soon as someone on their side leaked what they were doing). Might want to wake up to that fact instead of pretending we're all just Karens or "pearl clutchers" for stating it.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 04-27-2021 at 08:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenoire View Post
    If you don't want to see the fetish ads, use thy blacklist button.
    This literally doesn't work because blacklisting doesn't prevent seeing future violations of the ToS by other players. Blacklisting doesn't work like an ad blocker. I'm sure you know this but you like to fall back on that flawed solution to defend your position.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosenoire View Post
    It's not my job as a player to make things comfortable for other people's kids.
    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Another person with flawed logic.
    Here's the thing. It is your job since you agreed to the ToS stating you would act in a manner appropriate to 13+ players (INCLUDING ages 13-17).
    And it's mandatory to accept the ToS in order to be able to play this game. Every single one of us have agreed to the terms SE set.

    As for the contents of the game...SE tightly controls how controversial and sensitive topics are portrayed. They make sure they are shown in a way appropriate for minors. For content relating to sexual activity we only get story elements that point to those things happening, we are never given the intimate details about them nor are we ever shown a scene of the incident. Seeing a npc talk about how their father was a cruel person who took advantage of a war to have his way with a woman is not an invitation to in any way rp the act of doing that in every single detail. Because by doing that you are being very explicit and portraying that sort of situation in that manner is a violation of the ToS. Alluding to a certain thing happening is NOT the same as seeing it happen right in front of you.

    If a person is incapable of acting in a manner that abides by the ToS then they should not be playing this game at all. It is not difficult to take your sexual content elsewhere. If a person finds this difficult to do then frankly they need professional help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver View Post
    The game is not offering me feet pics for money. I find the fetish cringe, I don't care what people are into but keep your kink out of the pf.
    Ofc you want to see someone kick their ass... You have not the guts to dare try it yourself! But sure, advocate violence for a difference of opinion.
    And oh the humanity! Parents who care that their kids are not left vulnerable to content they are not yet mature enough to handle in a game rated for young teens! There is plenty 18+ entertainment out there... have you not seen game of thrones?
    If you dont like, maybe you shouldn't read it, or enter their party.. Thats literaly your own fault your choicing to read it.. As fire your kids if you really cared u would have them playing something more suited like stupid runescape or fortnite or things like aura kingdon .. The truth is you dont care you just want something to blame also a movie/show is a huge difference than a game
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    Last edited by StormyFae; 06-11-2021 at 11:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StormyFae View Post
    If you dont like, maybe you shouldn't read it, or enter their party.. Thats literaly your own fault your choicing to read it.. As fire your kids if you really cared u would have them playing something more suited like stupid runescape or fortnite or things like aura kingdon .. The truth is you dont care you just want something to blame also a movie/show is a huge difference than a game
    I don't have kids, I never want kids. They are far too much work and commitment for me. I hate how loud they are, I hate other people's brats that don't listen and they cannot be bothered to reprimand their sprogs. I want as little to do with children as possible. But even so, adults conducting themselves in a manner that can be damaging to children knowingly is disgusting. The "Oh these kids aren't my problem, so I shall ERP with whomever I want" doesn't fly. Every adult has a personal responsibility to not partake in any illicit activities with minors. "She said she was 18" is a pathetic excuse.

    Furthermore, I wouldn't read such pf's if they were not literally the first thing you see when you open the window along with the other RMT garbage. The feet selling stuff is pure cringe to me. It doesn't belong on pf nor does any other kink.

    Plenty game's have adult themes, they have absurd amounts of gore, the sluttiest outfits imaginable etc etc You can go get your weird furry fix in another game I am sure.
    I'm no fan of having other people's kids be my problem due to their screaming or bad behaviour, but I don't get to just throw off all responsibility I hold as an adult.
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