Thread: Bring back lost 1.0 items as glamour :)

Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

That was 1 1.0 item for clearing the hardest fight in 1.0 (white raven earrings for clearing nael hard in 1.0)

That was why there was backlash

That's be like SE giving out ultimate weapons/titles as a rising event reward next year.

The vast majority of players didn't even know they existed, though. Besides, those players already enjoyed a period of exclusivity. I've never seen anyone use either item either before that controversy or after it.

Originally Posted by Theodric

The vast majority of players didn't even know they existed, though. Besides, those players already enjoyed a period of exclusivity. I've never seen anyone use either item either before that controversy or after it.

Wouldn't surprise me if it just happens a large chunk of those players quit playing with the direction the game was taking after Heavensward given they were invested enough in 1.23 that they beat Nael hard.

Originally Posted by Theodric

The vast majority of players didn't even know they existed, though. Besides, those players already enjoyed a period of exclusivity. I've never seen anyone use either item either before that controversy or after it.

That's kind of the point. Pre event, you knew if you saw someone with the earrings where they got them from, and what it took.

The amount of remaining 1.x players is small as is, and that was the hardest content. Of course they were rare. I probably saw 2 or 3 on balmung back then.

Now it's a meaningless glamour. I'm sure many took them off after.

Tho, to be fair, with the amount of run selling going on, they might as well give out ultimate weapons and titles for a rising event.

My stance has always been for rare items to be rare for a specific period of time and then be made available to everybody. I say that as someone who bought every single statue with emotes attached to them purely for the emotes.

There's people who want something because they find it to cool and something they're genuinely going to use and others who want something just to hold it over other players. My belief is that the game should be appealing to the former rather than the latter.

Originally Posted by Theodric

My stance has always been for rare items to be rare for a specific period of time and then be made available to everybody. I say that as someone who bought every single statue with emotes attached to them purely for the emotes.

There's people who want something because they find it to cool and something they're genuinely going to use and others who want something just to hold it over other players. My belief is that the game should be appealing to the former rather than the latter.

So you are fine with rising ultimate stuff? Cool.

Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

So you are fine with rising ultimate stuff? Cool.

Ultimate weapons aren't really the same thing, though. They can still be obtained if someone wants to aim for them. The 1.0 items, however, are longer accessible.

Previous Feast rewards would be the equivalent, I suppose. They're no longer obtainable and ranked PvP has apparently been plagued by win trading/cheating and boosting - so I'd be more than happy for such rewards to be made available to regular players.

Generally I think via function of time nothing should ever be limited, 1, 2 year exclusive? Sure. If I recall correctly the white ravens were made to seem like one time ever limited edition items, so I can see why someone might be frustrated (though I personally would then say, just don't make limited items, only time exclusivity type of limited). But in a general sense I don't believe in exclusive anything. Heck I personally also think the challenge doesn't need to be preserved so long as you also give it a function of time, which is why I'm always for the rolling mountain FFXIV has done so far to most content (which allows you to start with time and skill gifted players and slide down to those with limited time or even, to a point, limited skill too). With only something like ultimate not getting hit by the mountain. Time serves us all lol.

Generic 1.0 items making a comeback is fine, the normal items that people got because they needed/wanted it, not because they thought it'd be made unavailable forever at a later date.

In general though, exclusive stuff should remain exclusive forever.