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[Kozh]

Like I said before, I think he acts like the Exarch who doesn't have the responsibility of overseeing the Crystarium and has a younger and healthier body, hence his reactions so far. ARR G'raha wouldn't act like that in all probability.

And you talk about entrusting the future to the next generation, but that's what the Exarch did by leaving the Crystarium to the people there. And technically, he is the "next generation" of his own self as ARR G'raha is his past.

We don't really know what they'll do otherwise. It really depends on where they want to take the story with these characters.

Uh yeah, that's my point to?? What I mean to say is that giving g'raha the Exarch's memory is already dubious enough, but he had to shove his own soul too. This resulted in current g'raha mostly being the Exarch, not our time line g'raha. And I personally dislike that.

He may have entrust the First into crystarium people, but I'm talking more about his self. And no, current g'raha isn't "next generation" past g'raha. If he truly was, he should be free from the knowledge and personality of the Exarch to develop into his own person, since the new time line will have new future. Maybe this example isn't the best, but this situation is like if minfilia still tag along inside ryne despite already giving all her power, and changing ryne's personality due to that.

[linayar]

Uh yeah, that's my point to?? What I mean to say is that giving g'raha the Exarch's memory is already dubious enough, but he had to shove his own soul too. This resulted in current g'raha mostly being the Exarch, not our time line g'raha. And I personally dislike that.

He may have entrust the First into crystarium people, but I'm talking more about his self. And no, current g'raha isn't "next generation" past g'raha. If he truly was, he should be free from the knowledge and personality of the Exarch to develop into his own person, since the new time line will have new future. Maybe this example isn't the best, but this situation is like if minfilia still tag along inside ryne despite already giving all her power, and changing ryne's personality due to that.

The Minfilia comparison is not valid because Ryne is a different person altogether.

The situation with the Exarch would be if you give Ryne the knowledge of what she will do in the future and have her act based on having lived that future.

[Rosenstrauch]

Uh yeah, that's my point to?? What I mean to say is that giving g'raha the Exarch's memory is already dubious enough, but he had to shove his own soul too. This resulted in current g'raha mostly being the Exarch, not our time line g'raha. And I personally dislike that.

Mostly? With the way he acts, it's more like he's an Ascian puppeteering his past self's body, so he can cheat death and live out his fantasy of being the player's best friend.

[SturmChurro]

Uh yeah, that's my point to?? What I mean to say is that giving g'raha the Exarch's memory is already dubious enough, but he had to shove his own soul too. This resulted in current g'raha mostly being the Exarch, not our time line g'raha. And I personally dislike that.

He may have entrust the First into crystarium people, but I'm talking more about his self. And no, current g'raha isn't "next generation" past g'raha. If he truly was, he should be free from the knowledge and personality of the Exarch to develop into his own person, since the new time line will have new future. Maybe this example isn't the best, but this situation is like if minfilia still tag along inside ryne despite already giving all her power, and changing ryne's personality due to that.

Yep. This is the selfish part of The Crystal Exarch's whole deal. In creating the extra soul crystal, he robbed his younger self of an existence free to live his own life. The game itself acknowledges that 'G'raha Tia' on the Source, and 'The Crystal Exarch' were separate people; or separate personalities.

The Crystal Exarch should have never had an out in the first place, as I said prior: it cheapens the sacrifice. He always thought he had an out, he was never truly 'sacrificing' himself for his people, and his friends. While yes, it wasn't a guarantee that his plan with the extra soul crystal would succeed, it's the intent.

[linayar]

Yep. This is the selfish part of The Crystal Exarch's whole deal. In creating the extra soul crystal, he robbed his younger self of an existence free to live his own life. The game itself acknowledges that 'G'raha Tia' on the Source, and 'The Crystal Exarch' were separate people; or separate personalities.

I disagree. I think the new G'raha is still free to live his own life. If he disagrees with what they've done, knowing what they've done, then he would have said so.

The Crystal Exarch should have never had an out in the first place, as I said prior: it cheapens the sacrifice. He always thought he had an out, he was never truly 'sacrificing' himself for his people, and his friends. While yes, it wasn't a guarantee that his plan with the extra soul crystal would succeed, it's the intent.

What cheapens a sacrifice is thinking of it as a sacrifice. People doing things that they have to even if it potentially will cost them something is the point, not whether or not the cost could be avoided. It's logical to want to lessen the cost of a sacrifice if they can, it doesn't change that they are willing to go through with it.