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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    They are included in other roulettes...
    Exactly!

    So why are they required for the MSQ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommara View Post
    Exactly!

    So why are they required for the MSQ?
    ...I think you're getting entirely hung up on the arbitrary naming of the roulettes.

    Those dungeons are required for the story... because they're part of the story.

    MSQ Roulette is just the name of a roulette... and roulettes aren't part of the story... they're a tool for getting people into queues.

    This is a story driven game, everything is part of the story unless it's specifically a side quest that has no consequences on the rest of the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    ...I think you're getting entirely hung up on the arbitrary naming of the roulettes.

    Those dungeons are required for the story... because they're part of the story.

    MSQ Roulette is just the name of a roulette... and roulettes aren't part of the story... they're a tool for getting people into queues.
    But that doesn't at all help us dps get through the MSQ required dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommara View Post
    But that doesn't at all help us dps get through the MSQ required dungeons.
    Oh if you're referring to the wait timers: that's due to the majority of people playing a DPS class. You have much quicker queues as healer or tank. Unfortunately, if you have 100+ dps in line for a dungeon, you still gotta wait for a tank and healer to queue to even get in.

    An easy solution is to ask on the PF for a healer or tank to help you out with queues as I do see a lot (at least in my DC) offering to speed people through queues when they finish their roulettes for the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommara View Post
    Exactly!

    So why are they required for the MSQ?
    For the 2nd time, because that's how FF14 was designed and it works for the majority of people. If you don't want dungeon locks, you can play WoW or Albion Online or stick with NMS. Nitpicking a name of a roulette and ignoring what people are saying isn't cute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    For the 2nd time, because that's how FF14 was designed and it works for the majority of people. If you don't want dungeon locks, you can play WoW or Albion Online or stick with NMS. Nitpicking a name of a roulette and ignoring what people are saying isn't cute.
    To be clear, I'm mostly complaining about the 80 MSQ quests to get out of ARR and such, which I have done, but the friends I play with, two of whom I played Everquest with, one of whom will never return, one of whom is close to giving up.

    Probably because they know better than to fall for this trap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommara View Post
    To be clear, I'm mostly complaining about the 80 MSQ quests to get out of ARR and such, which I have done, but the friends I play with, two of whom played Everquest with, one of whom will never return, one of whom is close to giving up.

    Probably because they know better to fall for this trap.
    I think its great that your friends know what they're looking for in a game and that they pick a game that suits there needs! If FFXIV isnt that game for them, thats fair - it suits different needs (or probably "wants" would be a better word...) that different people might have.

    Isnt it great that there are so many games out there that we all have a high chance of finding one that really hits the spot for us? For some that might be Everquest, for some - and I would include myself in that category - its FFXIV. And for me the storyfocus, that most dungeons are connected to the story, that I always know why I'm in that dungeon and why I'm fighting that monster there, is a huge part of why FFXIV hits my spot - it doesnt have to hit your spot, it doesnt have to hit the spot of your friends. There are many games out there to chose from... and I'm happy for your friends if they found a game they can enjoy!
    Not everyone has to enjoy everything - but if you try to turn something that already exists but that you dont enjoy into something you enjoy, you might just make that into something thats less enjoyable for the people who liked the "original" thing... seems hardly fair to me.

    If FFXIV has to much that you - or your friends - dont like or that you cant get your head around, theres nothing wrong with switching to a different game thats more fun to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    I think its great that your friends know what they're looking for in a game and that they pick a game that suits there needs! If FFXIV isnt that game for them, thats fair - it suits different needs (or probably "wants" would be a better word...) that different people might have.

    Isnt it great that there are so many games out there that we all have a high chance of finding one that really hits the spot for us? For some that might be Everquest, for some - and I would include myself in that category - its FFXIV. And for me the storyfocus, that most dungeons are connected to the story, that I always know why I'm in that dungeon and why I'm fighting that monster there, is a huge part of why FFXIV hits my spot - it doesnt have to hit your spot, it doesnt have to hit the spot of your friends. There are many games out there to chose from... and I'm happy for your friends if they found a game they can enjoy!
    Not everyone has to enjoy everything - but if you try to turn something that already exists but that you dont enjoy into something you enjoy, you might just make that into something thats less enjoyable for the people who liked the "original" thing... seems hardly fair to me.

    If FFXIV has to much that you - or your friends - dont like or that you cant get your head around, theres nothing wrong with switching to a different game thats more fun to you.
    You're absolutely right about! Thank you so much for your generosity of spirit.

    I've had too many old school gamer friends quit this game, prolly because they know better.

    I've been playing Final Fantasy since it was on the 8-bit Nintendo and absolutely loved them, so really want this game to work.

    But at the end of the day, those of us who watched a stump for days in our early days of MMO gaming, can easily recognize it for what it is.


    Edited Note: FF14 is still much better than WoW, which is probably the only MMO it can compete with, which isn't saying much. But even WoW at first, was a huge improvement over Everquest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommara View Post
    But at the end of the day, those of us who watched a stump for days in our early days of MMO gaming, can easily recognize it for what it is.
    What does this mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    What does this mean?
    In Everquest, I had to watch a stump for real life days, to wait for a ground spawn that would improve my abilities. It was contested, as everything was in Everquest, i.e. anyone could grab it.

    It was intended as a time waster.
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