MSQ

[LianaThorne]

ARR's post story was also much worse. They cut out a bunch of quests to make it shorter around half a year ago now maybe?

Also this isn't NMS and will never be the same game as NMS in terms of how they do housing. Could it be improved? Obviously. But it will also never be NMS' build system/"land claiming" system and trying to compare the two is kind of a head scratch moment.

[Tommara]

ARR's post story was also much worse. They cut out a bunch of quests to make it shorter around half a year ago now maybe?

Also this isn't NMS and will never be the same game as NMS in terms of how they do housing. Could it be improved? Obviously. But it will also never be NMS' build system/"land claiming" system and trying to compare the two is kind of a head scratch moment.

I'm playing NMS because FF14 isn't as much fun at the moment.

[Ilenya]

My suggestion: Move what is not important story elements from the MSQ into Side Quests. Don't gate the MSQ behind group dungeons unless necessary but by all means, gate the group dungeons by some other means, just not the MSQ.

I'm curious what you define as "not necessary" in regards to the dungeons done in the story.

[Tommara]

I'm curious what you define as "not necessary" in regards to the dungeons done in the story.

Ya know, when I sign up for the MSQ roulette, all I get is two 8 main raids? Despite the whole plethora of MSQ groups I've done?

[Seraphor]

Ya know, when I sign up for the MSQ roulette, all I get is two 8 main raids? Despite the whole plethora of MSQ groups I've done?

Because that's what MSQ roulette is for. Specifically those two 8 man raids that are unlike anything else in the game and yet required for progression. They can't lump it in with anything else, because otherwise you'd hit a roulette expecting a 10 minute trial or a 15 minute dungeon and instead end up in a 45 minute raid.
You know what you're signing up for with MSQ roulette. Don't want to do those raids, then don't run MSQ roulette?

[JisKing98]

Because that's what MSQ roulette is for. Specifically those two 8 man raids that are unlike anything else in the game and yet required for progression. They can't lump it in with anything else, because otherwise you'd hit a roulette expecting a 10 minute trial or a 15 minute dungeon and instead end up in a 45 minute raid.
You know what you're signing up for with MSQ roulette. Don't want to do those raids, then don't run MSQ roulette?

I still firmly believe they should just turn it into a solo instance for new players. maybe even use the trust system to help players out if people still want to keep that 8 man flavor.

[Sotaris]

Ya know, when I sign up for the MSQ roulette, all I get is two 8 main raids? Despite the whole plethora of MSQ groups I've done?

You're meant to. It's for the two 8-man dungeons.

[Seraphor]

So remove the story and turn the game into a housing sim? Am I getting that right?

[Tommara]

So remove the story and turn the game into a housing sim? Am I getting that right?

Well, you obviously haven't played No Man's Sky if you think it's a housing sim.

[Seraphor]

Well, you obviously haven't played No Man's Sky if you think it's a housing sim.

Maybe because this isn't No Man's Sky, this is Final Fantasy XIV.
If you want to play No Man's Sky, play No Man's Sky.