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[Vahlnir]

Plus they’ve had the protagonists live through far worse without any real plot explanation(Graha comes to mind)

Stormblood spoilers:

Gosetsu got shot a few times from close range, probably tore a few muscles trying to hold the roof of a castle up long enough so everyone could escape, had said castle fall on him, nearly drowned and washed up on a deserted island with the person who tried to kill him in the first place. The first of those things should have killed him, followed by an entire castle falling down on his head. But...you know, details. I wasn't unhappy with his survival though, even though he probably shouldn't have survived at all.

[KizuyaKatogami]

Stormblood spoilers:

Gosetsu got shot a few times from close range, probably tore a few muscles trying to hold the roof of a castle up long enough so everyone could escape, had said castle fall on him, nearly drowned and washed up on a deserted island with the person who tried to kill him in the first place. The first of those things should have killed him, followed by an entire castle falling down on his head. But...you know, details. I wasn't unhappy with his survival though, even though he probably shouldn't have survived at all.

Ah yeah i forget about him sometimes but you’re right xD. The Graha thing is just what honestly annoys me more than anything.(Off topic but nice midlander btw!)

[Theodric]

It's an MMO that is seeking to appeal to a broad range of players, who have varying tastes. For many, it is the antagonists who are more appealing than the protagonists in a story because they actually have genuine stakes, stand to lose much more upon defeat and generally have more compelling and complex motives. Final Fantasy VII - both the original and the remake - really appealed to me because it had such a strong range of interesting and memorable antagonists who weren't just unceremoniously killed off as the game progressed.

If the likes of Y'shtola can come back from the dead repeatedly, I don't see how it's unfair or unacceptable for the occasional antagonist to do the same thing. Provided it's handled reasonably well, of course and they're brought back to remain relevant to the ongoing story.

[SturmChurro]

If the likes of Y'shtola can come back from the dead repeatedly, I don't see how it's unfair or unacceptable for the occasional antagonist to do the same thing. Provided it's handled reasonably well, of course and they're brought back to remain relevant to the ongoing story.

Zenos did this very thing, and I am glad for it. One of the more compelling antagonists in the series, and the next expansion will only be the better for it.

[Theodric]

Zenos did this very thing, and I am glad for it. One of the more compelling antagonists in the series, and the next expansion will only be the better for it.

Yotsuyu coming back also gave us a pretty cool trial.

Fordola coming back sets things up nicely for Endwalker.

Estinien being redeemed gave us a solid ally to lean upon whenever we have to deal with dragons.

Gaius coming back gave us a potential 'in' with Garlemald as well as some neat trials.

[KizuyaKatogami]

So, better than 0 case of that ever happening?

Are you serious? Yshtola, Gosetsu, Graha, Thancred, Etc etc. There’s been many instances of it lmao have you not played through the story very much?

[Vahlnir]

Are you serious? Yshtola, Gosetsu, Graha, Thancred, Etc etc. There’s been many instances of it lmao have you not played through the story very much?

I think the worst offense in this regard was the Sultana. That entire thing at the end of ARR was supposed to be a really big deal. In fact, it was the main reason we went to Ishgard in the first place. Then we come back to Thanalan and she re-enters the picture, completely negating arguably the biggest plot twist that the ARR post launch story had to offer, basically saying "Oh, we had that planned all along! Sorry not sorry! We'll take things from here. Later!"...and back to Ishgard we went. Was the most pointless storyline ever. I don't say that lightly either. This game has its fair share of storylines that take the stairway to nowhere.

[linayar]

Are you serious? Yshtola, Gosetsu, Graha, Thancred, Etc etc. There’s been many instances of it lmao have you not played through the story very much?

They didn't die, only injured heavily or whatever Y'shtola was. The Exarch died, but his soul was transferred. The old body did not come back.

[Theodric]

Have it be G'raha rather than Y'shtola and that'd be perfect, really.

Y'shtola can either quietly retire or perish as a consequence of straining her supposedly increasingly limited reserves of aether too much at a critical point.

[Vahlnir]

Have it be G'raha rather than Y'shtola and that'd be perfect, really.

Y'shtola can either quietly retire or perish as a consequence of straining her supposedly increasingly limited reserves of aether too much at a critical point.

Bringing him into the story, slowly killing him off, then killing him off, then bringing him back only to kill him again seems...unnecessary. And it is for that reason I wouldn't be surprised at all if they did do it.