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    Shougun's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Infindox View Post
    Oh yeah, that was not the intention of my comment. I want things to be challenging on content. The problem is it also needs to be rewarding, which DRS isn't (at least imo).
    I was just speaking in general but I absolutely understand that desire, that's why I listed multiple types of people . The intent isn't meant to go from 1,000 to -500 instantly. But slowly the content adjusts due to demand, and at a certain point that means it will also require less people and so forth. Improving rewards first makes sense in terms of the steps of 1,000 to -500 lol. Especially as this content is still going to be the active content till the very soon to be end of expansion (nerfing too quickly would just get people waiting with nothing to do sooner).
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    Hanayumi's Avatar
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    From what I understand there wont be any nerfs to DRS but rather players are going to be getting some boosts in damage with a prestige-esque system come 5.55. After hitting the new rank cap in 5.55 players can basically continue leveling beyond the cap and that should greatly increase their overall damage in Bozja content. So yeah, this should make DRS a bit easier to not to mention we will also be able to run it undersized, I think it a minimum of 24 players come 5.55 as well.
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    Marxam's Avatar
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    Blackiron Tarkus
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 90
    This is specific content targeted towards a specific demographic, that requires a specific amount of people, each with specific sets of lost actions, and playing with a specific role within the alliance. Pretty much doomed content, if not for the help of discord or other third party support. It's going to get incredibly difficult for newer players to get into after the expansion drops, assuming Yoshi doesn't do anything to address it. Regardless, I'm personally gonna try to clear and farm it after new bozja drops because once I get the sets I want there is no reason to run it beyond that.
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    Mirabelle Weaver
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    Cactuar
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    Summoner Lv 90
    It doesn't help that running it is mega expensive.

    The new actions that come out better be super easily farmed else I highly doubt it will help
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    Taichou Gremory
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    Malboro
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I mean its "savage" after all, but to have 48 people to know every mech is impossible and you need 48 of then to get a clear. without discord or going in blind in pfs wont get you any progress, you need to be able communicate to do this.
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by sparroww View Post
    I mean its "savage" after all, but to have 48 people to know every mech is impossible and you need 48 of then to get a clear. without discord or going in blind in pfs wont get you any progress, you need to be able communicate to do this.
    No, it is.
    I mean, you need 8 people to know every mechanics in savage. Get 6 groups that cleared a savage tier, you'll get far enough competent people.
    Alright, many players I've seen use... External tools and they're completely lost without those. Those will have to do extra effort.

    But honestly, the DRS mechanics are really easy, they're hard punish but if you can't res without specific actions, there's a reason. If you could res anyone, the content would've been cleared within hours when released.
    I can think of 1, 2, maybe 3 hard mechanics during the whole DRS. It's sure scary because a run can last 2 hours, but honestly it's really easy. Diamond EX is harder than any bosses.
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    The instance is liable to become much easier in 5.55 due to the addition of the "prestige" ranks that grant damage bonuses on top of whatever new actions they release.

    I do wonder if there's going to be some kind of ultimate challenge for people who've grinded out both the haste gear and the prestige, though.
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    Hanayumi's Avatar
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Devs said DRS will be hardest content still, we are getting a new mini raid but its going to be a crit engage like Castrum. There will also be some new 1v1s, I suppose those will be the most challenging of new content until folks figure out strategies.
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolwosh View Post
    Uhh lots of people still do Eureka so idk what you're talking about. Baldesion runs are still going strong as well
    Baldesion is both significantly easier and profitable. DRS has far steeping punishment for failure and no incentive to repeat once you've cleared. What keeps BA alive is it being essentially a 24 man raid with more people.
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Zalera
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Baldesion is both significantly easier and profitable. DRS has far steeping punishment for failure and no incentive to repeat once you've cleared. What keeps BA alive is it being essentially a 24 man raid with more people.
    Arguably, no, BA is more punishing. There are moments where a single player failing a mechanic can cause massive raid-wide devastation. Might be easier, being a bit more lax on the dps checks. To that end, DRs difficulty is more that it requires a greater ratio of players putting in effort.

    But, Idk what y'all are on about with the incentive angle. BA and DRs both have a mount. And from where I'm standing, nothing else they offer is really worth repeat runs if you don't enjoy the content.
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