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    Shofie's Avatar
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    Shofie Mahowyn
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    There are different triggers for everyone, so what is acceptable and doesn't cause migraines/seizures for one may do so for someone else.

    Giving players the ability to reduce or remove these effects would help a lot.

    I want to assure everyone in here offering advice how to combat things we've lived with our entire lives: We know how to manage our conditions in the vast majority of cases. The issue is the content. In 2021, there shouldn't be any reason to be releasing content that can trigger epilepsy or migraines or otherwise photosensitive people when a lot of the times the triggers should be obvious by now.

    Forced overlays, strobing lights, intense bright lights and situations like the elevator (moving sideways and having to look at something moving sideways and you can't look away) are all common triggers that can make people sick. You can, to some degree, still include these things in your games as long as you give players a way to turn them off or negate them somehow, and that's not happening either.

    I am epileptic and have had problems with the elevator sequence for sure. I also politely let my group know that that spot gives me troubles and I will likely mess up a lot because I cannot look at the bosses effectively to do mechanics, unfortunately.
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    DF blacklists sound like a fantastic idea!! At this point we have so many instances that cutting out a small handful per player wouldn’t make a dent on wait times.
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    Terrible idea, would just make all high levels block out low level. Think less selfishly
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    Arkevorkhat Caelras
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puc View Post
    Terrible idea, would just make all high levels block out low level. Think less selfishly
    You're thinking pretty selfishly here.

    I for one would blacklist a small handful of duties, not everything low level, and there's a simple reason why: if I don't want to get low level duties, I don't run roulettes that include them; if my desire is to say, do only eden raids, I'll just queue up for the handful of them that I want to be dropped into at the time.

    Sure, some people would abuse it, but people abuse everything in this game, and that's nothing new. Besides, knowing the devs, they'd put a comically low limit on the number of duties, probably like 10 of them. That's not even enough to rid oneself of all the leveling duties in ARR.
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    Last edited by Arkevorkhat; 05-01-2021 at 06:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkevorkhat View Post
    You're thinking pretty selfishly here.

    I for one would blacklist a small handful of duties, not everything low level, and there's a simple reason why: if I don't want to get low level duties, I don't run roulettes that include them; if my desire is to say, do only eden raids, I'll just queue up for the handful of them that I want to be dropped into at the time.

    Sure, some people would abuse it, but people abuse everything in this game, and that's nothing new. Besides, knowing the devs, they'd put a comically low limit on the number of duties, probably like 10 of them. That's not even enough to rid oneself of all the leveling duties in ARR.
    What makes more sense is looking at the purpose of each roulette then seeing whether that feature could possibly be rolled out. That is fairer - you just admitted that some people would abuse that feature - that could possibly lead to some players not completed quests required for the MSQ or relic quests, etc.

    Example:

    Look at MSQ roulette- if the answer is "it was added to help newer players because no one wanted to queue for it after a certain point"

    well then then - don't allow anyone to deselect it OR - alternate solution - consider changing it to a solo duty

    Alliance roulette - >it was added to make it easier to form parties"

    could possibly enforce that checks such as:
    - are any alliances required for MSQ -- cannot disable
    - are any alliances required to advance in relic quests (example)
    Finally: or maximum number allowed to disable rule - > checks that person has not disabled more than "x" alliance raids out of "y" that are available
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    What makes more sense is looking at the purpose of each roulette then seeing whether that feature could possibly be rolled out. That is fairer - you just admitted that some people would abuse that feature - that could possibly lead to some players not completed quests required for the MSQ or relic quests, etc.
    So... What I'm getting here is we're not allowed to have quality of life features if any person could ever abuse them?

    If that's your argument, it's time to get rid of the party finder and shout chat.

    Most people just don't care enough to blacklist everything, and even if they did, we both know that the devs would never allow it.

    So what if a small percentage of the playerbase blacklists the entire Crystal Tower raid series? All that means is they'll have longer queues to pay for it.
    This all balances out, as long as you're willing to accept that most people just don't feel particularly strongly about any particular duty.
    In contrast of course, I'd happily wait an extra 5 minutes in every DPS queue if it meant that I'd never have to do Aurum Vale or Dzemael Darkhold again.
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    Last edited by Arkevorkhat; 05-02-2021 at 07:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puc View Post
    Terrible idea, would just make all high levels block out low level. Think less selfishly
    All the people who remove their gear to guarantee a LotA run would like a word with you <3

    Maybe it's those people forcing CT to pop for the majority of people's AR roulettes are the real selfish people here?

    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    That is fairer - you just admitted that some people would abuse that feature - that could possibly lead to some players not completed quests required for the MSQ or relic quests, etc.
    People already abuse the ilvl system. What would be fair is just give us a handful of available duties to lock. 2-3 would work.
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    Last edited by LisSquid; 05-02-2021 at 07:04 AM.

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    Scarlett Dzian
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    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    All the people who remove their gear to guarantee a LotA run would like a word with you <3

    Maybe it's those people forcing CT to pop for the majority of people's AR roulettes are the real selfish people here?

    People already abuse the ilvl system. What would be fair is just give us a handful of available duties to lock. 2-3 would work.
    The reason crystal tower comes up so much is more to do with player levels than anytbing else. It's a 24 man duty. If just one of them is level 59 or lower your gonna get one of the crystal tower raids.

    And with 24 players it's highly likely at least one will be 59 or lower doing alliance roulette for the massive exp at the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    The reason crystal tower comes up so much is more to do with player levels than anytbing else. It's a 24 man duty. If just one of them is level 59 or lower your gonna get one of the crystal tower raids.

    And with 24 players it's highly likely at least one will be 59 or lower doing alliance roulette for the massive exp at the end.
    And by that same logic, just one person queing with their gear off will also put you in the alliance raid. Really, jump in on a SCH and listen for that magic sound of people putting their gear back on. It's nearly every time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LisSquid View Post
    And by that same logic, just one person queing with their gear off will also put you in the alliance raid. Really, jump in on a SCH and listen for that magic sound of people putting their gear back on. It's nearly every time.
    Doesn't that only make a sound when you also change class? I'm pretty sure just switching gear is silent.
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