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    I have better bets on sch being in a better place design wise then whm. Whm will probably be relatively the same and sch might have more dps buttons. Though I could be wrong and they could make all the healers snore fests which will be dumb.
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    I'm personally going to wait til fanfest at the earliest, and the job actions trailer at the latest, before I start crying doom and gloom. While we can assume all we like that it's going to be the worst case scenario. We don't have enough evidence and there's always that slimmest of slim chance that they've received our feedback over the past two years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    I'm personally going to wait til fanfest at the earliest, and the job actions trailer at the latest, before I start crying doom and gloom. While we can assume all we like that it's going to be the worst case scenario. We don't have enough evidence and there's always that slimmest of slim chance that they've received our feedback over the past two years.
    I agree but waiting is hard : (
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    I'm personally going to wait til fanfest at the earliest, and the job actions trailer at the latest, before I start crying doom and gloom. While we can assume all we like that it's going to be the worst case scenario. We don't have enough evidence and there's always that slimmest of slim chance that they've received our feedback over the past two years.
    I think it's fair for people to be worried especially based on track record and direction. I know my main one is between how they're gonna handle the Pure/Shield heals split, they never stopped SCH being classed as a shield healer, yet, it has functionally drifted away from playing as a shield healer over time because of its boosts to pure healing.

    But yeah, that's all they can be at this stage, a worry. What we do know have the potential to be good and it's going to depend on execution and what else they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saefinn View Post
    I think it's fair for people to be worried especially based on track record and direction. I know my main one is between how they're gonna handle the Pure/Shield heals split, they never stopped SCH being classed as a shield healer, yet, it has functionally drifted away from playing as a shield healer over time because of its boosts to pure healing.

    But yeah, that's all they can be at this stage, a worry. What we do know have the potential to be good and it's going to depend on execution and what else they do.
    I'm trying to empathize with the worry but at the same time it just seems to be a massive waste of breath until they confirm it so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandedblade View Post
    I'm trying to empathize with the worry but at the same time it just seems to be a massive waste of breath until they confirm it so.
    I feel like it's a massive waste of breath either way right now. Sure, there are reasons to be concerned given the track record for healing changes, but the concept of pure/barrier healers can really go in a lot of different directions. A lot of people are complaining, but about what? We don't really know what we're looking at until we get more details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    I feel like it's a massive waste of breath either way right now. Sure, there are reasons to be concerned given the track record for healing changes, but the concept of pure/barrier healers can really go in a lot of different directions. A lot of people are complaining, but about what? We don't really know what we're looking at until we get more details.
    a lot of the same thing was said with people not knowing what the [shadowbringers combat overhaul] was going to look like, and look how "well" that turned out.
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    Should be worried for SCH. Because Scholar and Sage are gonna be fighting each other for a spot as shield healer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Should be worried for SCH. Because Scholar and Sage are gonna be fighting each other for a spot as shield healer.
    Honestly we should be worried for SCH. If Sage is remotely well designed I forsee a LOT of SCH's saying F* it and rolling Sage. No clunky pet AI to deal with.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
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    I've already told everyone I know that unless the devs finally acknowledge that healers are meant to be fun and deserve good design, instead of the afterthought we have now, by 6.0 Sch will be a dead job since SGE will have not only the novelty but also very likely to have less gameplay problems and tbh I can see a lot more of people dropping the role if the worst happens and our problems go unheard for another 2 years.
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