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    Dzian's Avatar
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    Scarlett Dzian
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    Bard Lv 76
    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    When do people speak to one another in DF other than say hello or ty for the party? You're joking right? Many time they say nothing at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by linayar View Post
    The existence of the duty finder would suggest that less communication is preferable.
    You cant communicate in this game. The abc mentality prevents it. If your communicating then your not doing dps. And you will be slammed for it.

    The other reason people don't communicate is because you finish whatever duty your in and you'll almost never see the same players again. It's why the social aspect of modern mmos has deteriorated so much..

    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    Not the game and raid design... That should be guiding, encouraging and challenging us to do better.
    The reality is the game and devs do everything possible to make the game brain dead easy.. msq quests that were all ready braindead easy now have even easier difficulty options..

    The whole game should be encouring players and challenging them to do better. "Raise the players up" not "bring the content down"

    This is where most of the games problems lie. Players run through all this brain dead easy stuff that's almost impossible to fail. Then decide to go and try sone ex / Savage level content. Get smacked in the face with a huge reality check and a ton of attitude for wasting everyone else's time.

    If the game actually had a learning curve, thought and raised players up. They'd be much more prepared. that end game stuff.

    But the games attitude is one of handouts and making everything brain dead easy.. with easy modes, massive Ievel overpowering, huge echo buffs and even unsync.
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    DPZ2's Avatar
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    Dal S'ta
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 98
    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    You cant communicate in this game. The abc mentality prevents it. If your communicating then your not doing dps. And you will be slammed for it.

    The other reason people don't communicate is because you finish whatever duty your in and you'll almost never see the same players again. It's why the social aspect of modern mmos has deteriorated so much..
    If the game were solely instance after instance after instance, your point might be valid.

    Every modern MMO has other mechanisms for socializing that do not involve a dungeon instance. In WoW you have guilds, in FFXIV you have Free Companies. If you desire social interaction, the chat window is the means to that end, and so is your headset if you join an FC/guild with a Discord server.

    I have enjoyed in-game banter in FFXIV for over six years now, and do not feel it necessary to force socialization from random players who join in the same dungeon instances. That doesn't mean I have never had an interesting conversation with someone in an instance ... I tend to get chatty in the MSQ roulette, for example. I also realize that English is not necessarily the first language of players who I meet in an instance.

    I've played MMOs long enough to know that dungeon instances are the last place for any meaningful socialization to occur. The days before dungeon finders was certainly one where some amount of socialization was necessary to even run an instance, but it wasn't a requirement.

    If you want to point fingers at the primary reason you might remember earlier MMOs with more fondness (from a social viewpoint), blame the lack of Internet forums and websites that lay out everything for you, rather than the game itself.
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