Fix the Elemental Wheel

[Zyph]

- Wind Blows air and takes out Fire ( Like Blowing out a Candle, thats wind)

I know that's the way they described it, and that's the issue I'm having. Think back to any wildfire you've seen, whether on the news or in real life. When have you ever heard "Thank goodness the wind is so strong, that will surely put out the fire." You've never heard that, because actual fires are given mobility by wind, not put out by it. Putting out a spreading wildfire is a constant battle against the power of the wind more than anything.

While I agree with you OP, my current understanding is that the elemental doesn't really have that much of an effect anyway.

Please flame me if this is not correct, or (not as desirable) correct me; for instance, does it really help with Ifrit fight?

From what I've heard I don't think it has any bearing on Ifrit (so likely not Garuda either) but I know for certain it has an effect on normal mobs. I know gnats and hippogryphs (lightning based) get absolutely wrecked by earth, and I assume that if Water was still in the game, the ants in Cutters Cry would go down fast to that too (based on this current wonky wheel where water is strong to earth).

[Starlord]

I know that's the way they described it, and that's the issue I'm having. Think back to any wildfire you've seen, whether on the news or in real life. When have you ever heard "Thank goodness the wind is so strong, that will surely put out the fire." You've never heard that, because actual fires are given mobility by wind, not put out by it. Putting out a spreading wildfire is a constant battle against the power of the wind more than anything.

Same problem with water, some Fires can't be put out with Water either it's kinda the same Problem with Wind

[Zyph]

Same problem with water, some Fires can't be put out with Water either it's kinda the same Problem with Wind

Water doesn't cause fire to spread in any way. Fire dies when it's not exposed to oxygen (wind), which is what water does, it smothers it so it can't use the oxygen in the air (wind) as one of it's chemical reagents. Though the same thing can be said of earth, that would also smother fire. But you don't see firefighters spraying sand on housefires. You also don't see them using compressed air.

[Vanguard319]

Water doesn't cause fire to spread in any way. Fire dies when it's not exposed to oxygen (wind), which is what water does, it smothers it so it can't use the oxygen in the air (wind) as one of it's chemical reagents. Though the same thing can be said of earth, that would also smother fire. But you don't see firefighters spraying sand on housefires. You also don't see them using compressed air.

Perhaps not, but firefighters sometimes use explosives to put out certain types of fires (i.e. certain chemical fires that would react to water/foam), the shockwave literally removes all the immediate oxygen in the area, (sometimes the fuel as well.) snuffing out the flames.

or to simplify: wind kills fire.

Edit: I forgot to mention this but you don't necessarily need plain oxygen to keep a fire going, the correct term is oxidizing agent. (for example, many chlorates are even more reactive than oxygen and will often ignite on contact with anything combustible, and could be the kind of chemical fire that can't be extingushed by conventional means.)

[Rutelor]

Same problem with water, some Fires can't be put out with Water either it's kinda the same Problem with Wind

But mainly, those are electrical fires, and that sort of technological division of fires is not included in the wheel. Among men that inhabit nature, it's been ancestral, atavistic knowledge that the remedy to fire is water.