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    How 5.5 Gilded Mounts Vendors can save the Mog Station

    Items:
    “Resplendent Vessel of Ronka” selling for 25 million gil (gold version of “Great Vessel of Ronka” mount)
    “Gilded Mikoshi” selling for 50 million gil (gold version of “Mikoshi” mount)

    Benefit:

    A way for players to spend large amounts of gil reducing inflation in the game's economy and take the gil out of circulation.

    Drawback:
    Prizes that will only appeal to a small percentage of the population due to items being a recolor of something they already own.

    Solution/Suggestion:
    In my opinion the addition of the new gold colored mounts is a great first step into the issue of inflation in the game's economy. However, I feel that a recolor of mounts players already own for absurd amounts of gil will not convince enough players to buy them and will do little to take gil out of circulation.

    I suggest, a way to peak player interest by adding something they will be more likely to spend large amounts of gil for. In my opinion I believe adding items that are currently only available from the Mog Station to also be available from Luxury Traders for gil. Despite the controversial topic of buying things from the Mog Station with real money, I believe having options is a good alternative. If a player has the option to spend real money on an item or spend time earning money in game for the same item, they are at the very least given multiple options to gain something they want.

    As for the implication of this idea on Square Enix's part, I feel it much easier to add items they have already created models for and animations for instead of trying to create brand new items. Although, I am not against the adding of new items, these are always welcome. I am just trying to suggest the easiest alternative to achieve all the desired outcomes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SerenityLuministia View Post
    Items:
    “Resplendent Vessel of Ronka” selling for 25 million gil (gold version of “Great Vessel of Ronka” mount)
    “Gilded Mikoshi” selling for 50 million gil (gold version of “Mikoshi” mount)

    Benefit:
    A way for players to spend large amounts of gil reducing inflation in the game's economy and take the gil out of circulation.
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    Seems like an excellent way to foster RMT if you ask me. I'm sure the Gil Sellers are pretty happy with this new need for gil. Relative to Mog Station items SE makes real money from sales there I doubt seriously they'll give people a way to buy those in game.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 04-20-2021 at 10:00 AM.

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    I don't see a need for any gil sinks when they've totally & completely destroyed the economy.
    Everything seems to be selling for 5k gil or less now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taebok View Post
    I don't see a need for any gil sinks when they've totally & completely destroyed the economy.
    Everything seems to be selling for 5k gil or less now.
    It's still possible to make a lot of gil, though.

    Personally I don't have any interest in the mounts in question. I would, however, buy some opulent and fancy furniture for my house that costs a lot of money. Provided it genuinely looked nice, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It's still possible to make a lot of gil, though.
    Yeah. Granted it is still the first week of the patch, but I've spent around 6-7 mil and made half of that back in the same amount of time. I can usually average a couple hundred thousand per day at least if things are selling steadily. Usually more if my retainers are generous. Sure, I'm never rich, but I always get what I want. Considering I've got all the glamours I want currently, a fully furnished house and reasonably geared alt jobs I think I'm doing just fine.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 04-20-2021 at 10:16 AM.
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    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Seems like an excellent way to foster RMT if you ask me. I'm sure the Gil Sellers are pretty happy with this new need for gil. Relative to Mog Station items SE makes real money from sales there I doubt seriously they'll give people a way to buy those in game.
    Kinda silly perspective tbh. If adding mogstation mounts in for gil is going to foster RMT, then why are these RMTers not simply spending their money on the mount directly? You're not gonna find 50 million gil from any RMT source for 30 bucks or less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    Kinda silly perspective tbh. If adding mogstation mounts in for gil is going to foster RMT, then why are these RMTers not simply spending their money on the mount directly? You're not gonna find 50 million gil from any RMT source for 30 bucks or less.
    Yes it is a silly perspective to think they'd sell mogstation items for gil instead of real dollars but go ahead and believe they will. Check back with us when they actually do that.

    Quote Originally Posted by SerenityLuministia View Post
    I don't think RMT is an issue here.
    RMT already sells Mogstation items for less that Mogstation. They use them as a hook to get people to their sites. And people buy gil for lots of things and to think that those who have little money won't consider buying gil to get things they want is just being naïve. They already do. Creating desirable highly priced items that most of the community has no chance of getting is going to encourage some to simply buy the gil to get them. At least the current items are only gaudy reskins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    Seems like an excellent way to foster RMT if you ask me. I'm sure the Gil Sellers are pretty happy with this new need for gil. Relative to Mog Station items SE makes real money from sales there I doubt seriously they'll give people a way to buy those in game.
    I don't think RMT is an issue here. If you are the type of person to go against the rules and buy gil from RMT with real money to get the item. Why would you bother with the middle man plus the risk to your account if you could buy it with real money from the Mog Station.

    As for Square Enix making money off the sales of the Mog Station items, they will still be making money off of the subscription time it would take people to earn that gil in game. Assuming these are the only two factors we are judging against each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    RMT already sells Mogstation items for less that Mogstation. They use them as a hook to get people to their sites. And people buy gil for lots of things and to think that those who have little money won't consider buying gil to get things they want is just being naïve. They already do. Creating desirable highly priced items that most of the community has no chance of getting is going to encourage some to simply buy the gil to get them. At least the current items are only gaudy reskins.

    I'm sorry could you or someone who understands please elaborate, I don't understand. How are RMT selling Mog Station items for less then the Mog Station.

    Let's use the "Kingly Peacock Horn" as an example. It sells for $24 US and summons a Kingly Peacock Mount, the mount is unique, market prohibited, and untradable. This means that it cannot be traded to a player or sold to a player the only way for someone to obtain it is for it to be directly moogle mailed to them though the Mog Station.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SerenityLuministia View Post
    I'm sorry could you or someone who understands please elaborate, I don't understand. How are RMT selling Mog Station items for less then the Mog Station.

    Let's use the "Kingly Peacock Horn" as an example. It sells for $24 US and summons a Kingly Peacock Mount, the mount is unique, market prohibited, and untradable. This means that it cannot be traded to a player or sold to a player the only way for someone to obtain it is for it to be directly moogle mailed to them though the Mog Station.
    They purchase the items off the Mog Station using stolen card numbers and then sell the codes for less on their sites. By the time a chargeback is done on the Mog Station by the bank/card holder it's too late. SE loses money because of the chargebacks. RMT makes money cuz they stole the code with a stolen card number.
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