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  1. #11
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    Kinda silly perspective tbh. If adding mogstation mounts in for gil is going to foster RMT, then why are these RMTers not simply spending their money on the mount directly? You're not gonna find 50 million gil from any RMT source for 30 bucks or less.
    Yes it is a silly perspective to think they'd sell mogstation items for gil instead of real dollars but go ahead and believe they will. Check back with us when they actually do that.

    Quote Originally Posted by SerenityLuministia View Post
    I don't think RMT is an issue here.
    RMT already sells Mogstation items for less that Mogstation. They use them as a hook to get people to their sites. And people buy gil for lots of things and to think that those who have little money won't consider buying gil to get things they want is just being naïve. They already do. Creating desirable highly priced items that most of the community has no chance of getting is going to encourage some to simply buy the gil to get them. At least the current items are only gaudy reskins.
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  2. #12
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    Stepjam's Avatar
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    Gabriel Morgan
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    Adamantoise
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by StriderShinryu View Post
    I mean, a better gil sink would just be for the players who feel they have too much gil to just throw the gil away. Find the NPC vendor with the most expensive stuff you can buy for gil, spend all of your "too much gil" there and then vendor the bought items back for vendor price. Boom. Gil gone in a way that doesn't impact the economy. As a bonus, the devs don't need to spend any extra time and resources creating stuff or new systems to stroke anyone's large.. wallet.
    I mean by gil sink, they want something that actually some value for the massive amount of gil they have. They don't want to literally throw it away.
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  3. #13
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    Krotoan's Avatar
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Sargatanas
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I would wager the FFXIV team is keeping a very close eye on the metrics right now. How many of these mounts are sold, if people with the previous version still buy the "new" version. How many are purchased per account and if the pricepoint makes a huge difference in engagement.

    If this is successful (lots of engagement, lots of gil removed) , I imagine many MANY new "gold" mounts making their way to the new vendors.
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  4. #14
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    Sotaris's Avatar
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    Meluwen Nobu
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    Lich
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Wish there was more unique mounts than a reskin of current BTQ rewards.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    I would wager the FFXIV team is keeping a very close eye on the metrics right now. How many of these mounts are sold, if people with the previous version still buy the "new" version. How many are purchased per account and if the pricepoint makes a huge difference in engagement.

    If this is successful (lots of engagement, lots of gil removed) , I imagine many MANY new "gold" mounts making their way to the new vendors.
    Yeah I'm for sure isnt spending 50+m on mounts I already own just cause they have a different color.
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  5. #15
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Personally I would like other gold or fun-but-expensive options. Like 50mil is way too much for me, but I might blow 1 mil on a simple recolonization of some other mount (like a blue magitek reaper or green fat chocobo...something like that)

    If they add some things between 1 and 5 mil that involve minions or mounts I might be all in. Even easier if they make sets of items ‘cause some people would “have” to buy all to complete their set.
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  6. #16
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    Personally I would like other gold or fun-but-expensive options. Like 50mil is way too much for me, but I might blow 1 mil on a simple recolonization of some other mount (like a blue magitek reaper or green fat chocobo...something like that)

    If they add some things between 1 and 5 mil that involve minions or mounts I might be all in. Even easier if they make sets of items ‘cause some people would “have” to buy all to complete their set.
    For sure it'd be nice if we had options but the goal here is to remove some of the insane amounts of gil that's just being sat on at the moment. People have several retainers maxxed out on multiple alts. Thats 1 billion gil on each of them (1 gil really doesn't matter). Now while I couldn't tell you how many people out there have this particular situation, it puts some perspective on the prices being asked for the new mounts.

    You and I may balk at parting with a few million for anything, but there are players who 50 million is a pittance.

    I feel it's a bit late for these players to finally be addressed, but it's better than nothing.
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  7. #17
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    I honestly worry that adding more gil sinks is just going to make the presence of bots and RMT blow up even more then it already has.

    I've already seen treasure map bot parties that seem to be including people's mains strictly for the purpose of gaining income, not for RMT.
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  8. #18
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    Neoyoshi's Avatar
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    Neoyoshi Kaligawa
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    Gilgamesh
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    Monk Lv 100
    What's wrong with the Mogstation? Is it getting shut down?

    Why does it need saving? I'm confused. Context please. xD
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  9. #19
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    For sure it'd be nice if we had options but the goal here is to remove some of the insane amounts of gil that's just being sat on at the moment. People have several retainers maxxed out on multiple alts. Thats 1 billion gil on each of them (1 gil really doesn't matter). Now while I couldn't tell you how many people out there have this particular situation, it puts some perspective on the prices being asked for the new mounts.

    You and I may balk at parting with a few million for anything, but there are players who 50 million is a pittance.

    I feel it's a bit late for these players to finally be addressed, but it's better than nothing.
    I mean, 50m from 10 players or 5m from 100 same difference, no?
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  10. #20
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    I mean, 50m from 10 players or 5m from 100 same difference, no?
    If it's 10 players. I'm betting the people who run the game and have access to the actual metrics have a better idea of what they want to bleed and from who.
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