On Novice Networks and Inappropriate Discourse

[SturmChurro]

No, as discussing such things is against ToS. What he is referring to is how in the NN I am a very vocal in support of pushing for big pulls and pushing unconfident players toward that goal, as it is the expected endgame norm. In short I am just trying to prepare sprouts for endgame.

Exactly! Far cry from irrelevent ERP in the NN. Just like ERP has no place in PF, it has no place in the NN, and the NN has no place in the game!

[SenorPatty]

Exactly! Far cry from irrelevent ERP in the NN. Just like ERP has no place in PF, it has no place in the NN, and the NN has no place in the game!

I like how no matter what, you want to see NN and/or mentor system die.

I'm not saying that you're wrong. Or right. You just make me literally laugh.

[SturmChurro]

I like how no matter what, you want to see NN and/or mentor system die.

I'm not saying that you're wrong. Or right. You just make me literally laugh.

It's for a good reason. The betterment of the game! We wouldn't have issues as seen discussed in this thread OR things like that (apparently) Aether notorious NN spammer. I just want to see this game flourish, and getting rid of mentorship, and the NN is a step to further achieving that goal.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

It\\'s for a good reason. The betterment of the game! We wouldn\\'t have issues as seen discussed in this thread OR things like that (apparently) Aether notorious NN spammer. I just want to see this game flourish, and getting rid of mentorship, and the NN is a step to further achieving that goal.

Not that I’d blame you. To some extent, I share the same sentiment against the NN. Though before axing, I’d like to know if there’s any chance or other way to be exhausted in order to salvage the system. In concept it’s nice imho. The execution as of now is just highly ‘meh’.

[SenorPatty]

Not that I’d blame you. To some extent, I share the same sentiment against the NN. Though before axing, I’d like to know if there’s any chance or other way to be exhausted in order to salvage the system. In concept it’s nice imho. The execution as of now is just highly ‘meh’.

For NN in itself, SE just needs to slap maybe 1-2 absolutes and some guidelines. Like "absolutely no off-topic discussions", for instance. Guidelines can be the usual stuff like "keep discussions clear of profanities and illicit sibjects (whatever that entails)'.

As for the mentor system itself, kill the link between that and the mount and kill the roulette too. Re-label the roulette to something like "Masters Roulette" and transfer current mount progress to it. Masters will have different icons than mentors. Masters roulette can contain ex trials but the participants can only be made up of masters. Mentors would have a different roulette, ex trials completely absent and it would only be populated by minimum 1 mentor and only sprout/returners. Also, at the very least, have SE have a limited amount of mentors at any given time but make sure other people get a chance. Introduce these mentors to the community and let the latter explain who they are, what's their strong points in the game, etc. And finally, properly track these mentors when they interact with sprouts and/or returners, not just to protect the latter but also the former.

That's all I can think of at the time.

[Shougun]

It's for a good reason. The betterment of the game! We wouldn't have issues as seen discussed in this thread OR things like that (apparently) Aether notorious NN spammer. I just want to see this game flourish, and getting rid of mentorship, and the NN is a step to further achieving that goal.

While I regularly see off topic discussion in the NN I've also seen it largely, when given the opportunity, used for good and if anything the off topic just giving people a place to chat (which is why I said there is self-evident demand for a more free form group chat, over a linkshell which is more structured).

When someone asks a question it's /usually/ helpful answers, and many of them. Occasionally I've seen some disagreement, but of that it too is usually fine.

So of three groups- doing it's job, being an chat center, and causing issues- it largely does the first two in my experience.

[Vahlnir]

It's for a good reason. The betterment of the game! We wouldn't have issues as seen discussed in this thread OR things like that (apparently) Aether notorious NN spammer. I just want to see this game flourish, and getting rid of mentorship, and the NN is a step to further achieving that goal.

Getting rid of the system entirely is not the answer. Are there some much needed changes that could be made though? Yes, of course. I'm all for making changes for the better.