On Novice Networks and Inappropriate Discourse

[soccerdude8]

I'm a new player. I haven't seen anything inappropriate on my server, but I also don't play for many hours a day. For me, I get annoyed with general chatter in NN. I see the green text in the chat box thinking it would be helpful information, but its just banter between mentors. Dont get me wrong, I do see questions and answers alot, but when I look down and its just some banter I get annoyed. Personal opinion of course. I'm sure other players feel like they are part of a community when it happens. I personally think that's the purpose of a guild.

that's my two cents

[Windfire]

Hello Sirenian here and I'd just like to say our NN is not so horrible as is being depicted, yes it sometimes goes way off topic, other night economics somehow came up lol, but questions are asked and answered. I have gotten a great deal of help from NN and it was actually how I got to know the gm of the fc I joined.

To anyone going "omg see NN is bad get rid of it!" I would STRONGLY suggest you take what the op says with a huge pile of salt as they picked fights over nothing (like neir glams), slammed people for "terrible dps" (in low lvl dungeons btw) and called the server trash players.

In short NN is a tool and any tool can be misused, however imo Siren mentors are pretty good about not letting things get too out of hand.

[Vahlnir]

Hello Sirenian here and I'd just like to say our NN is not so horrible as is being depicted, yes it sometimes goes way off topic, other night economics somehow came up lol, but questions are asked and answered. I have gotten a great deal of help from NN and it was actually how I got to know the gm of the fc I joined.

To anyone going "omg see NN is bad get rid of it!" I would STRONGLY suggest you take what the op says with a huge pile of salt as they picked fights over nothing (like neir glams), slammed people for "terrible dps" (in low lvl dungeons btw) and called the server trash players.

In short NN is a tool and any tool can be misused, however imo Siren mentors are pretty good about not letting things get too out of hand.

If this is indeed true...the plot thickens.

There it is. You attack my character over opinions I shared in unrelated chatter between answering questions in novice network and accusing me of harrassment of players, which is false. I suppose it's because I break from the typical hivemind certain mentors have crafted for the server's network. I must be discredited and labelled "toxic", despite that the actual toxicity stems from this hivemind.

There was a mentor in my server's NN for a little while who did much of what Windfire described and more. They were a destructive force all their own. One thing I've noticed when it comes to toxic players is that most of them seem to believe that everyone is out to get them. Everyone else is being toxic and it is their fault for being part of some 'hivemind". You seem to think the same way. Now, I don't know you...but I do know patterns. Hopefully you are not part of this pattern though. I would love to be proven wrong. I'm pretty good at reading people though.

I think it's more of a question if they were wrong in their (supposed) criticism, because I see nothing wrong with these opinions. In general.

More often than not it isn't what people say, it is how they say it. Still, we don't know quite enough. We've got both sides saying they are in the wrong here. However, I've got my first impressions out of the way. Getting more players from Siren to reply would help though if they have experienced these events.