Concerns about Feast achievements in 6.0

[Celi]

Hi, I’m from the achievement hunting community. Over the past week or so, many of us have been worried about something Yoshi-P said during the last live letter (from the unofficial reddit translation):

“・フィーストは一旦閉じる可能性がある
There is a possibility that Feast will be temporary closed down depending on how the content goes. “

(The content mentioned is the new small scale PvP coming in 6.0)
Diadem was also suspended for a time before its achievements were eventually removed and replaced by a new diadem. Will the same thing happen to the Feast achievements? We do NOT want any of the feast achievements to be removed!! Many of us aren’t done with these yet! Feast queues are infrequent, which makes these achievements difficult to get because we cannot do enough of the content. Ideally, we would like for all of the feast achievements to be grandfathered into the new PvP mode’s achievements; like what happened to the Fold’s achievements when Feast came out.
Can we get any clarification on what will be happening to these? (Please keep them all!)

(List of related achievements in the following post because I ran out of space)

[Celi]

These are the achievements we are concerned about:
• Participating in matches in the Feast or Fold
o Hungry Like a Wolf I
o Hungry Like a Wolf II
o Hungry Like a Wolf III
o Hungry Like a Wolf IV
o Hungry Like a Wolf V
• Winning matches in the Feast or Fold
o Pack Mentality I
o Pack Mentality II
o Pack Mentality III
o Pack Mentality IV
o Pack Mentality V
o Leader of the Pack
• Participate in a matches in the Feast
o Look Who’s Coming to Dinner I
o Look Who’s Coming to Dinner II
o Look Who’s Coming to Dinner III
o Look Who’s Coming to Dinner IV
o Look Who’s Coming to Dinner V
o A Clean Plate
• Winning matches in the Feast
o You Are What You Eat I
o You Are What You Eat II
o You Are What You Eat III
o You Are What You Eat IV
o You Are What You Eat V
o Breaking Fast With Champions
• Winning matches in the Feast while playing specific roles
o A Wolf in Plate Armor I
o A Wolf in Plate Armor II
o A Wolf in Plate Armor III
o A Wolf in Plate Armor IV
o A Stalwart to Remember
o A Wolf in a Spiked Subligar I
o A Wolf in a Spiked Subligar II
o A Wolf in a Spiked Subligar III
o A Wolf in a Spiked Subligar IV
o A Slayer to Remember
o A Wolf in Green Tights I
o A Wolf in Green Tights II
o A Wolf in Green Tights III
o A Wolf in Green Tights IV
o A Sniper to Remember
o A Wolf in Dark Robes I
o A Wolf in Dark Robes II
o A Wolf in Dark Robes III
o A Wolf in Dark Robes IV
o A Spellcaster to Remember
o A Wolf in White Robes I
o A Wolf in White Robes II
o A Wolf in White Robes III
o A Wolf in White Robes IV
o A Sawbones to Remember
• Getting Kills in the Feast
o Mama Said Knock You Out I
o Mama Said Knock You Out II
o Mama Said Knock You Out III
o Mama Said Knock You Out IV
o Mama Said Knock You Out V
• Getting assists in the Feast
o How Can I Help I
o How Can I Help II
o How Can I Help III
o How Can I Help IV
o How Can I Help V
• Winning matches in the Feast with your PvP team
o Pack Man I
o Pack Man II
o Pack Man III
o Pack Man IV
o Pack Man V
o Stay Sharp
• Solo Rankings
o Dining Solo: Bronze
o Dining Solo: Silver
o Dining Solo: Gold
o Dining Solo: Platinum
o Dining Solo: Diamond
o Dinner for Eleven (to One Hundred)
o Head of the Table
• Team Rankings
o Diners' Club: Bronze
o Diners' Club: Silver
o Diners' Club: Gold
o Diners' Club: Platinum
o Diners' Club: Diamond
o Party for Eleven (to Thirty)
o Party for Two (to Ten)
o It's My Party

[Bill_Murray]

I also, as a member of the achievement hunting community, would like to respectfully request that all the feast achievements remain and not be removed. Many of us have worked very hard and put in hundreds of hours for these achievements, titles, mounts, and minions.

Thanks so much for your consideration!
Bill

[MalReynolds]

or bring back 8v8!

[Esmoire]

or bring back 8v8!

Whoa. Be careful. You are recommending things that might make Feast fun again.

[Commander_Justitia]

You gonna lose some either way if there will be no more seasons. Ranked Achievements for reaching a certain tier.
It is already impossible to get the Light Party Ranking Tier ones because they never reused them after Season 4, when they had the chance to consolidate them during 'Team Season' which granted none achievements.
You also can never get lower tier achievements if you go for top100, they should be included if you reach the upper tiers...
They also could have used the original JP client english titles for a lot of the Feast Titles, instead of inventing new english sounding titles for already english titles...
Beta-Wolf is The Feast Slayer in the JP client as example.

Given how bad they use to communicate changes, you can probably count on that some of them may perish or be halted for a long duration until they figure out what they actually wanna do with PvP.

[Celi]

Given how bad they use to communicate changes, you can probably count on that some of them may perish or be halted for a long duration until they figure out what they actually wanna do with PvP.

I agree this is the sad, but likely truth. However, I'm hoping to make our desires known to encourage them keep them.

You gonna lose some either way if there will be no more seasons.

If the new small scale PvP has ranking seasons, these achievements could be reused for that, or repurposed in some other way. Either way, I'd like to be able to keep as many as possible. It's pretty discouraging to new achievement hunters when they learn there's a lot of achievements that they can never get, so I hope that list stays as close to 0 as possible.

[Squintina]

Yes, please leave Feast available next expansion. Even if you end up largely ignoring it so you can focus on the new mode, just make it available. Let us achievement hunters keep working on these via community events. That's all we ask. There are discords where people set up training queues and tournaments that allow us to keep working on these little by little, but if you make the mode unavailable, or completely remove it, then we can't even do that

The achievement hunting community was already hurt a lot when we assumed Diadem achievements would be adapted, with no mention ever made during PLLs that this would not happen. We had to find out in the preliminary patch notes, a mere 4 days before they were made unobtainable. Those who wanted to get them had to pull 13-20 hours a day for 3-4 days to try to get these achievements in time; it was extremely grueling. We do not want a repeat of this for Feast. Please let us just keep working on these little by little, and if you're not, then please give us plenty of advanced notice, rather than a "possibility", so we can better organize community events to help people get matches and duke it out!

The achievement hunting community might be small, but we are very dedicated players. Please keep us in mind.

[Stormfur]

They also could have used the original JP client english titles for a lot of the Feast Titles, instead of inventing new english sounding titles for already english titles...
Beta-Wolf is The Feast Slayer in the JP client as example.

Alright now that's cool as heck. If they do re-do achievements for whatever this new mode is, I hope the achievements get ported over too and those get added (so those who like Beta Wolf can keep it, for example... beta-wolf sounds so weird though.. like a wolf that is still in development).

While we're on the topic of achievements, they should rework the ones for PVP teams as well. We've literally had one tournament, ever and that was it. But the achievements are still there.

[Celi]

The achievement hunting community was already hurt a lot when we assumed Diadem achievements would be adapted, with no mention ever made during PLLs that this would not happen. We had to find out in the preliminary patch notes, a mere 4 days before they were made unobtainable. Those who wanted to get them had to pull 13-20 hours a day for 3-4 days to try to get these achievements in time; it was extremely grueling. We do not want a repeat of this for Feast. Please let us just keep working on these little by little, and if you're not, then please give us plenty of advanced notice, rather than a "possibility", so we can better organize community events to help people get matches and duke it out!

The achievement hunting community might be small, but we are very dedicated players. Please keep us in mind.

I agree 100%! The removal of the diadem achievements hit the achievement community really hard. Most people weren't able to get them in time.

I also want to mention that many of the Feast achievements are to large to be obtained in only a couple days. Removal of these achievements will hit the community even harder, especially since there are so many achievements attached to Feast.