New Player - Duty Finder regularly taking 30 to 60 to even 2+ hours !!!!

[Bright-Flower]

I got an alt through the 5.0 msq the other day and sat in queue for 40 minutes for Dying Gasp without getting a pop, or any progress in filling out the party, so I just went into PF and got a quick group to get in and finish it.

I think that being patch week might have made things worse than usual for a solo queue dps due to many people doing new content rather than settling in to do things like trial roulette/leveling roulette etc.

Outside of this one instance though it's been really rare for me to have to wait more than 20 minutes for a DF pop even as a solo queue dps.

[Mykll]

Ok let me draw the picture because it has been lost on some.

I am very discouraged to play as I cannot get through Main Story or good quests because the duty finder just doesnt work for me!

Main story or good quests!

I am currently at 90 minutes on one to finish my Relic quest or Main Story quest..

Sometimes it takes 30 , sometimes it has gone to 2 hours and i just give up

What point are you trying to prove, exactly? The OP says that he is encountering those wait times for "relic quests and main story quests".

Queuing into a whole lot of low-traffic side content that isn't needed for those quests doesn't prove anything useful here, as far as I can see.

So only relic and main story quests are the good quests? He also said he has given up after 2 hours waiting. I showed a pic that, when going through DF, depending on what a good quest is to you, and what you are queuing for, 7+ hours can be easy to make.

There are just some places where nobody is running in DF.

So depending on what you queue up for, no matter if it is relic, or main story, or other good quests, if you depend solely on DF, there will be some places that will take forever to run. You agree with me, you just don't like how I said it.

[Vidu]

Ok let me draw the picture because it has been lost on some.



Main story or good quests!





So only relic and main story quests are the good quests? He also said he has given up after 2 hours waiting. I showed a pic that, when going through DF, depending on what a good quest is to you, and what you are queuing for, 7+ hours can be easy to make.



So depending on what you queue up for, no matter if it is relic, or main story, or other good quests, if you depend solely on DF, there will be some places that will take forever to run. You agree with me, you just don't like how I said it.

Non of the Ex-Primals you queued for (4/5 of your queues) can really be classified as "good story", because theres no story aspect to the extreme version of these trials; the whole story as been told using the normal mode before - so unless you show, that the queue times for these normal modes take ages during a time the server is active (aka: not in the middle of the night for the servers region), that point falls pretty moot.

You only get a point when it comes to Coil, since that only comes in a "hardemode/extreme version" and contains a good story thats locked behind completing the turns.
Ex-primals never contained any story outside of unlocking them, so you've seen all the "good story" after you unlocked the trial. All the Ex-primals are are more difficult versions of the storymode-fights. And with HW they learned their lesson when it comes to raids and included a storymode specifically so people could play through the story without having to complete challenging content that would prove difficult to queue for (and complete) using DF.

With the exception of Coil, all content that is related to a story should have reasonable queuetimes during active server hours. Come back here after queueing for the normal modes of these trials and that taking several hours...

[Hasrat]

Or, y'know, "good" could've as easily been an auto-correct error.

[kiagenwa]

Extreme Trials and Savage Raids (the ones you linked fall in those categories) aren't run via DF on the NA or EU Data Centre, here we use PF for that kind of content.

Bad news for me.
Hope no MSQ requires these duties.

I'm planning to learn Japanese and find JP friends & FC after I reached ShB content (or my 90 days exp buff runs out) :/
If it needs that much teamwork then communication is key I guess.

[Iscah]

Bad news for me.
Hope no MSQ requires these duties.

I'm planning to learn Japanese and find JP friends & FC after I reached ShB content (or my 90 days exp buff runs out) :/
If it needs that much teamwork then communication is key I guess.

Why is that bad news? It's organised through PF. You have access to PF.

Runs are organised via PF on the Japanese servers too. Or you can start your own.

[kiagenwa]

Why is that bad news? It's organised through PF. You have access to PF.

Runs are organised via PF on the Japanese servers too. Or you can start your own.

not that kind of bad news.
I thought extreme trials were like hard but tougher, didn't think about those mech.
Just that some quests will be abandon until I can complete it :/

[Vyrerus]

Non of the Ex-Primals you queued for (4/5 of your queues) can really be classified as "good story", because theres no story aspect to the extreme version of these trials; the whole story as been told using the normal mode before - so unless you show, that the queue times for these normal modes take ages during a time the server is active (aka: not in the middle of the night for the servers region), that point falls pretty moot.

You only get a point when it comes to Coil, since that only comes in a "hardemode/extreme version" and contains a good story thats locked behind completing the turns.
Ex-primals never contained any story outside of unlocking them, so you've seen all the "good story" after you unlocked the trial. All the Ex-primals are are more difficult versions of the storymode-fights. And with HW they learned their lesson when it comes to raids and included a storymode specifically so people could play through the story without having to complete challenging content that would prove difficult to queue for (and complete) using DF.

With the exception of Coil, all content that is related to a story should have reasonable queuetimes during active server hours. Come back here after queueing for the normal modes of these trials and that taking several hours...

Hey, the Warring Triad Extremes had a singular smacking of story in the unvoiced dialogue with Unukalhai leading up to them. Allagan Danger Room programs simulating the Warring Triad at peak strength, i.e. after having devoured the other members of the triad. Winning participants get their genetic material taken to be used in cloning superior soldiers for the glory of Allag!

[Vidu]

Bad news for me.
Hope no MSQ requires these duties.

I'm planning to learn Japanese and find JP friends & FC after I reached ShB content (or my 90 days exp buff runs out) :/
If it needs that much teamwork then communication is key I guess.

Good news for you: As I mentioned, extreme trials are nothing more than more difficult version of the storymode-fight, same goes for Savage raids.
Their deal is basically this: You complete the storyline around the trial or raid in question (mainquest or storyheavy sidequest). After that you have the option to pick up another quest that is not required to continue with your mainquest, the sidequest or anything, really and it goes something like this:
For ARR: "Oh no! They summoned their primal again! Only more powerful this time! You have to defeat it! Again." -quest jinggle plays- "You unlocked [Primal] Extreme"
Past ARR: You talk to Yoshida, pardon "The Wanderin Ministrel" and tell him all about your fight. He'll make up a song/story about it, which is supposed to be extreme version of the fight, with the idea that hes greatly exxagerating who dangerous and difficult the fight truely was. You get to read a little poem and under 10 speach bubbles you've unlocked your new extreme trial or savage raid.
I want to add that thats it. Theres nothing beyond that quest to unlock those trials. The quest is completed after you unlocked the duty in question, you dont need to finish the fight. Any "story" related to extreme and savage is packed into the quest to unlock them.

There are a few exceptions:
Coil - the ARR-raid is not part of the mainquest and there is no need to complete it to progress in the game. But its very story and lore heavy - actually the reason we got storymodes for all raids going forward: People wanted to experience the story, but didnt had the time/skill/motivation to clear content of that difficulty.

Miseria Memoria - there is no real storymode to this fight, its something completely new. Its by no means required to progress during a story-questline, though. Like the usual EX-trials its an addition.

Second phases/true form - by this I mean that some Savage raids (usually the last one of each tier - so 4, 8 and 12) have a second phase during their battle that shows their "true form". One could interpret that as a storydetail that you wont see if you only play through the storymode.

But all in all: There is no story locked behind the difficult non-DF content - except for Coil. And no mainstory requires clearing any of that.

[Iscah]

Miseria Memoria - there is no real storymode to this fight, its something completely new. Its by no means required to progress during a story-questline, though. Like the usual EX-trials its an addition.

Yes and no. There is a story mode but it's a solo duty with NPCs that you can't repeat.

The EX version has no story at all attached to it, though.