Thread: Maps redesing for 2.0... cities too?!

Looking at the 2.0 documents, the redesigned maps look great. Well at least the artwork does, we will see once E3 comes i guess.

What about the Cities tho'? Will they redesign them too? I can't seem to find anything mentioning the cities, cuz they do need a lift up too!

Originally Posted by Kiote

This is about right. The simple fact is that when you Change the Engine of a game, you have to rebuild everything. You can't just drag and drop parts of the old world to the new world. It might be similar, but nothing will be the same.

This is absolutely false. Model data is a list of vertices in 3D space. Model placement data is a list of points in 3D space attached to model data. Textures are bitmaps, art assets which are not procedurally generated, which have texture maps, which again are just points, these do not change.

Changing the engine presents a good opportunity to modify things yes, but if they so wanted they could make everything exactly the same from a model data/texture perspective. What they're changing is the way objects in the game are rendered using shading, lighting, and rasterization. The changing of the world is not a result of them changing the engine, it is a result of player feedback.

Originally Posted by Kiote

This is about right. The simple fact is that when you Change the Engine of a game, you have to rebuild everything. You can't just drag and drop parts of the old world to the new world. It might be similar, but nothing will be the same.

Not exactly true... Engines can be made to use assets from other engines....
For example... I could build a brand new engine right now that is compatible with the FFXIV 1.xx MOB models... and then could import the MOB models that are a part of the game folder on your hard drive directly into the new engine....

Is that what they'll do with 2.0? I have no idea... But the time between Yoshi taking over and 2.0 doesn't really allow them a lot of time to redo every single 3d model on characters, MOBs, weapons and environments... thats a shit-ton of remodeling

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Originally Posted by Zyph

This is absolutely false. Model data is a list of vertices in 3D space. Model placement data is a list of points in 3D space attached to model data. Textures are bitmaps, art assets which are not procedurally generated, which have texture maps, which again are just points, these do not change.

Changing the engine presents a good opportunity to modify things yes, but if they so wanted they could make everything exactly the same from a model data/texture perspective. What they're changing is the way objects in the game are rendered using shading, lighting, and rasterization. The changing of the world is not a result of them changing the engine, it is a result of player feedback.

Just had to beat me to it.. huh?

Originally Posted by Picoman

It was only during one of the eighteen interviews post 2.0 announcement where i remember it being asked.
I can't fully remember, think its a no but will be modified to accommodate/eradicate certain parts.

They should redesigned them... they won't fit in well with the new world and there is a lot of copy/paste in cities too so they suffer from the same issues as the world maps. Same issue should = same fix.