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    The cities do need some redesigning. They lack even NPC housing, seems everyone lives on the streets or their work buildings. In other games you can see what is NPC housing and go in and look around and even get quests from NPC's residing in there.

    I would also love the GC's to have their own buildings to enter like the different city representatives in FFXI (yes I said it :P) I like the cities as they are but they do need some additions ^^ Going to the Market Ward area for everything is boring but I'm sure right now they have no choice but to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onidemon View Post
    Looking at the 2.0 documents, the redesigned maps look great. Well at least the artwork does, we will see once E3 comes i guess.

    What about the Cities tho'? Will they redesign them too? I can't seem to find anything mentioning the cities, cuz they do need a lift up too!
    Given the performance issues they seem to have with Ul'dah I would think you will see them split the cities into multiple zones. There will have to be at lease some design changes if they do that.
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    the need to make FFXIV citys like WoW, yeah i said it they were lively and big where you can go everywhere they had all kinds of shops.
    and no i dont like Wow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by indira View Post
    the need to make FFXIV citys like WoW, yeah i said it they were lively and big where you can go everywhere they had all kinds of shops.
    and no i dont like Wow.
    I don't like WoW either but you have to give it to Blizzard, the cities are lively and feel like actual cities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    I don't like WoW either but you have to give it to Blizzard, the cities are lively and feel like actual cities.
    That poor guy in Stormwind has been trying to sell that same loaf of bread that he's been carrying for nearly 8 years now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Impulse View Post
    That poor guy in Stormwind has been trying to sell that same loaf of bread that he's been carrying for nearly 8 years now.
    Touche'! I think having NPCs that react to contemporary events would be a nice middle ground... But maybe that's too much to ask for?
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    Seriously? You can't honestly want a petition for this without even knowing to what degree the tweaks will happen. We don't know if the "tweaks" will include making the cities more lively, or what changes are going to be made. The city shapes might stay more or less the same but new animations, new areas might be created. The textures and looks might change. The music might change. There are hundreds of things they could do to the cities that entail "Not completely rebuilding from the ground up."

    Everyone needs to relax and wait to see what they have in store. If, when they release some info on the changes being made, the cities are shown as being exactly the same, as if someone just pulled them out of the game and placed them back in to the new maps creating some sort of anachronistic nightmare, then feel free to start making petitions. Until then, chill. We have no idea what they have in store for the cities.
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    Last edited by LlenCoram; 04-30-2012 at 08:35 PM. Reason: removed personal-attacky words. Wasn't my intention.

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    Perrina Avolara
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    Quote Originally Posted by LlenCoram View Post
    Seriously? You can't honestly want a petition for this without even knowing to what degree the tweaks will happen. We don't know if the "tweaks" will include making the cities more lively, or what changes are going to be made. The city shapes might stay more or less the same but new animations, new areas might be created. The textures and looks might change. The music might change. There are hundreds of things they could do to the cities that entail "Not completely rebuilding from the ground up."

    Everyone needs to relax and wait to see what they have in store. If, when they release some info on the changes being made, the cities are shown as being exactly the same, as if someone just pulled them out of the game and placed them back in to the new maps creating some sort of anachronistic nightmare, then feel free to start making petitions. Until then, chill. We have no idea what they have in store for the cities.
    But we do know for sure that they won't be doing a complete redesign from the ground up. Yoshi said so himself, per Rukkirri's post.

    We do know that they *might* (Rukkirri's/Yoshi's word, not mine) make changes to some locations that are inconvenient or frustrating. Not only is that a vague comment to begin with, but using the word "might" means we can't even depend on some changes being made at all, even if they really should/could be.

    Based on Yoshi's statements, per Rukkirri's post, it's safe to say that SE won't be doing as much as people hoped they would.
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    Tamako Lalako
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    I'm sort of hoping by 'won't be completely redesigned from the ground up' just means they'll use the same objects/textures/npcs/etc and just change the layout of the city.

    I don't mind Ul'dah that much, but I guess that's because compared to Grid it's amazing :P Limsa Lominsa looks amazing, but it's horrible to navigate around (especially when you're new to the game).
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    I think everyone is reading too much into Rukkirii's post.

    Re-using assets, framing foundations of old buildings in ruins...re-using trees, landscape pieces...removing redundancy...making locations more meaningful.

    It's not a here's a blank slate let's remake it...it's a we have assets we've created how do we best use it and expand and creating a more dynamic and amazing city. We've seen the sketches...I'm hoping Gridania gets carved into an old growth forest feel...and the city spirals up roots into giant tree canopies on top...it's a shame to have a wooded city only be on one level.
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