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    Akujin Aetheoryn
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    Request: AoE range indictator

    What I'm proposing is something I dont forsee happening until 2.0, because of what it would mean with the mini map on the UI. If it could happen before, that'd be cool too.

    XII had a system where if you began to cast a spell that would target multiple targets, it would create a visible ring on screen showing you where the spell is centered from and everything else that would be targeted and those that would fall outside of it.

    I'd like to see something like this happen in XIV as well, so when an AoE based spell is being prepared and you select targets, you can see via mini map the range of the spell, which targets are going to be included and those it would miss, so you can readjust your target accordingly to hit as many as possible.

    Also on that.. I'm assuming the reason why AoE's are limited to 8 targets is because of the party limitation as it is. Will this ever change, will be able to hit a dozen or more targets with an AoE? Or make it so the higher tier AoE you use, the more targets it effects. So Fire would hit 6, Fira 8, Firaga 10, etc I find it funny how you can be in a room of mobs, nuke all of them down, but one mob who was in the middle of the group is never touched at all.
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    Yes...that way I can Dragonfire Dive everything >)
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    Yoso Carrasco
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    I think the UI designer working in 2.0 is the same guy that did the one from FF12 so hopefully we have something similar coming.
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    Delsus Highwind
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    I would like this, and I think the 8 mob limit for AoEs is 1.xx limitations, I see no need for it and come 2.0 it should be removed if they intend for some really good endgame.
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    I'd rather see the AOE range within the mobs itself instead of being on the mini map.
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    I agree with the dislike of being limited to 8 mobs at once. I think after 9 or more it should just seriously drop the divided damage. As for the indicator on the screen, I couldn't be more against it. Imagine you becoming this awesome mage, burnin down villages or saving the world one pile of baddies at a time.... but you're so unfamiliar with the mechanics of your spells that you have no idea how to use them. No thanks.
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    Glad to see others feel about the range of magic as I do...but that last comment about not liking the indicator because someone would grow to not understand how the magic works, that..I dont understand.

    AoEs are simple to understand, what this would do is all you to see the optimal positioning you need to be, to cast your next spell when attempting to cover the best range possible.

    If you have 3 mobs around each other, you select one, there's a chance that even though in your perspective it could hit all three, it'll only hit one. You select a different one, it has the chance of striking down two, or if you select the last it has the best possability of hitting all 3 at once, utalizing positioning and strategy rather than just blindly shooting off spells and wasting mp.

    They want melee classes to rely on positioning when using skills, I dont see why mages are any different.

    Hell, there could become a day when, if they can really do well on the landscape and really signifiy the difference between rock, grass, sand, snow, etc that a Geomancer class would benefit from such ideas, moving from one spot to another to benefit from the type of ground they are touching, be it a puddle, a patch of rock, sand, etc.

    And having it on the screen as a visual guide is good too, as Illriginalized said. Thats how XII did it anyways. It may be easier to use as well, if you have a cluster of mobs together and you're trying to nuke them all down at the same time, if you put your spell on one mob, it may not hit the one all the way on the outer edge of the rest of them. You wont know that until you've casted. But, with visual guide, you can see the one on the end isnt effected by the range, so you adjust as necassary and blamo. Death to all.
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    If I remember correctly they have expressed the want to add something like this. but you know the drill at this point.
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    If you can cast a spell 100 or 1000 or 5000 times and still not be good enough at using it to "eyeball" it then I feel bad. Adding an indicator would make an already simplistic game even simpler.... This is why I feel it is sooooo the wrong direction to go. You wouldn't even need to learn your spells effective area, it would just show it to you. Someone who just got firaga is going to be just as good at using it as someone who has cast it so many times. That is what is wrong with an indicator.
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    Zalim Ramuh
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    I would love to see this. Anything to help with AoE range is a + in my book.
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