ranger job

[linayar]

That's why I said he would Paladin cover you, which means summoner still has enmity (but titan is 'tanking'). Although I don't necessarily think it always has to be that way in all mmos. I have fond memories of using my pet to tank in WoW. Decently fond memories in FFXIV before the titan nerf. Titan feels bleh in comparison, imo, to the other gameplay mechanics I had experienced (not useless, just doesn't feel quite right as a fun and flow factor). I know they took away because they felt they couldn't balance them, hence why I had the makeshift "not a buffer, but still tanks via cover" concept.

Technically I've even made feedback on the benefits of making them untargetable long before they were made so (at the time people discussing balance issues and potential solutions), so I get it why it might have been changed-- I just kind of like the idea he's tanking over buffing, even if Summoner is the focus / enmity holder. I think at the time it was something like some hp on summon, may need a cooldown or mp cost (just on him), with a damage to hp mechanic such that as he deals damage some of it is converted into his shield for you (so like his ultimate in a pack of monsters would be synergistic). It's a slight QoL change (auto-covers, with hp, as if you had summoned him before he lost his hp bar and he had enmity) and mostly a conceptual change, but yes anyways to what you were responding to I didn't actually change the 'target' while also allowing him to sort of tank (just for the summoner).

A cover is fine as long as they don't bring back pet HP. So it basically works like a temporary "invulnerability" instead, but should be very limited, just enough to bring back tank ASAP ideally.

And yes, I understand about actual pet tanking, but things like what apparently happened with Ramuh just should not exist, and I don't really like the idea in general, unless the summoner becomes the summon or the summon replaces the summoner temporarily. That's one way I could like pet "tanking" in this game.

I think the issue with titan can be remedied by just giving it more utilities that can differentiate it in specific situations. It doesn't require a return to the old pet mechanism.

[Shougun]

A cover is fine as long as they don't bring back pet HP. So it basically works like a temporary "invulnerability" instead, but should be very limited, just enough to bring back tank ASAP ideally.

And yes, I understand about actual pet tanking, but things like what apparently happened with Ramuh just should not exist, and I don't really like the idea in general, unless the summoner becomes the summon or the summon replaces the summoner temporarily. That's one way I could like pet "tanking" in this game.

I think the issue with titan can be remedied by just giving it more utilities that can differentiate it in specific situations. It doesn't require a return to the old pet mechanism.

I think the HP, if Titan remains untargetable and doesn't get to keep his 90% magic reduction lol, would be fine as you wouldn't be able to reproduce Ramuh situation with a cover titan then (because he auto-covers you on summon and has hp from the start, basically front loading Earthen Armor (so he gets a different egi-2 move), it would likely be Titan has 15-25% of your max health, and doesn't 'die' at zero, rather he just has no buffer to offer, also why I mentioned the hp regeneration mechanic so titan could restore his buffer and that mechanic would have some synergy with his other skills, like his ultimate and particularly if you were in large groups). Ultimately I just want to note it's not needed in the slightest, but I would have preferred it as it helps maintain some of the old concept of "tanks" while entirely dodging Ramuh tank issues (which I understand people want to avoid, having it via this way would return it to a far more he's there for you vibe over almost like he's your pocket healer rather than tank "BUFF ME" "AGAIN".. would like it to be "yooooo, happy you're here fighting this trash with me"). All posted due to the vibe shift I don't appreciate (while I also understand we can't return to Summoner replacing tanks in dungeons, because obvious reasons lol).

By adding an mp cost, or cooldown (balance, so you can't just recast titan over and over for non-stop freebies), also sort of gives Summoner a chance to potentially weave it in for emergencies more easily than otherwise- say if you had like 5000 mp and 200 hp, raid wide is coming so you use titan which gobbles up the raid wide (and now has no hp), then shift to Ifrit. Rather than "I don't dare use, or maybe even have off cooldown, my egi-assault for earthen fury, so I'm not going to bother summoning titan anyways". Reduces the punishment of bringing him out, makes it faster (cause on summon he'll auto-cover you), and vibes towards tanking (cover) over buffing. But.. I mean you could keep the QoL and not do all the abstraction, simply make him auto-shield you lol, maybe the shield growth mechanic as well (makes him closer to a buffer again though >.>). Which again I wasn't trying to say Titan has zero use, if you get the right opportunity, haven't used your egi-assault, then 30% shield back to back is pretty good (and it does last for a while). The numbers on the shield are not bad, just not in love with the vibe and how you have to get around to using it lol. I believe there are ways, if one wanted 'tank' vibe (not to suggesting everyone cares), that would better represent tanking than what amounts to basically a support mage casting stoneskin while also not having to return to the imbalance of old (Summoner replacing tanks, or messing up mechanics because pet is targeted, and other related 'targeted' issues).

But eh, mild QoL annoyance and conceptual hang up on the shift of imagery that I don't think is quite desirable (but overall both are minor gripes, especially in light to say fixing ghosting, or improving responsiveness). Although in a general sense at any given opportunity I'd love to see each egi / demi have more flavor, over just a target type and potency shift (Titan shield and Phoenix HoT stand out of course, but more 'standing out' where balance isn't damaged would be nice).


As for the later idea-I would love playing with some level 90 mega ultimate transformation skill. I had thought Demiurge, for it's namesake relation to the demi summons, and it's own definition:

a being responsible for the creation of the universe.
(in Platonic philosophy) the Maker or Creator of the world.
(in Gnosticism and other theological systems) a heavenly being, subordinate to the Supreme Being, that is considered to be the controller of the material world and antagonistic to all that is purely spiritual.

Would be fun name opportunity.

Not entirely sure where it would fit in the rotation to feel good and not feel like a weird piece to the rotation puzzle, but Summoner going "primal-like" would be neat. Could have some interesting modifications to the mage rotation side of the job without causing a new sort of chaos lol (like how phoenix works).

[HollyJollyPaca]

That's just a BRD with a glamoured bow. We're getting melee anyway.

[Esmoire]

In the future, maybe they will make bard more bard-like and have a more dirrct-damage-baed ranged counterpart to compliment it. Will have to have distinction from MCH which already kind of fills that niche, but if they can do 5 melee I am sure they can figure that out. Maybe 7.0 or 8.0. Not happening 6.0

[DamianFatale]

I love my dancer job so much, but I truly wish there was a traditional ranger job that was like a traditional RPG. The closest we get to that realism is Machinist. A crossbow user that's more of a traditional ranged DPS would be welcome.

[Savagelf]

bard and machinist are different each other as would be ranger

ranger use traps to cc the mobs bleed dots and hawk rake dots.
bard use music to buff and debuff they enemies posion and air dot
machinist use advance weaponery to attack enemies

bard use music a ranger won't use this it use barbed bolt for bleed effect aswell have ability to send hawk in for rake dots. i not suggest give ranger ability improve they allied that different between bard and ranger. ranger use traps and bleed effect to slow mobs and enemy down bleed and slow would be a ranger friend. while bard friend is they posion dots airly dots.

trap would like raze wire ball bearings raze jacks the hawks would drop these infront your enemy mobs

the ranger lvl lb 3 would raptor of forest she blow her or his horn called different raptors birdsto attack her or his enemys