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    Jira Dal'riata
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormfur View Post
    I'd be alright with them giving rangers the bow and letting bard use music as a weapon entirely. Same with machinist for the gadgets and corsair for the guns.
    This is a utter waste of job potential and both jobs in question have plenty of space to fill there desires for there respected fantasies. Sick of hearing about how Bard isnt bard and machinist needs no gun and make a separate job for. Eventually they wont be adding anymore jobs and I dont want these previous job slots to be filled with twins
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    “Theirs really not much you can change with the MCH”
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    Well, the original relic bow for BRD the Artemis Bow does have appropriately enough a harp (or more accurately, a lyre) attached to it, and it's arrow quiver is a horn, so that is kind of already in the game anyway.
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    I still say they had an opportunity to have different Jobs branch off classes when they reworked how SMN/SCH diverge from each other through traits and just different skills learned. Yes I know they did it out of necessity and they struggle and regret the design philosophy behind ACN to SMN/SCH and they'll never do it bla bla but that doesn't detract from it being a pretty good system to make different specs basically. But that's perhaps better served in a game where class balance isn't held up so high that class personality/fantasy becomes lower priority.

    All that said Ranger would've been a slam dunk in my opinion but at this point it'll most likely never happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverObi View Post
    I still say they had an opportunity to have different Jobs branch off classes when they reworked how SMN/SCH diverge from each other through traits and just different skills learned. Yes I know they did it out of necessity and they struggle and regret the design philosophy behind ACN to SMN/SCH and they'll never do it bla bla but that doesn't detract from it being a pretty good system to make different specs basically. But that's perhaps better served in a game where class balance isn't held up so high that class personality/fantasy becomes lower priority.

    All that said Ranger would've been a slam dunk in my opinion but at this point it'll most likely never happen.
    All of this. My main boyo is canonically an archer but I have to basically pretend the bard stuff just doesn't exist because there's no pure archer class in the game other than the starting class. No matter what the devs say, the branching of jobs from classes had such potential, like bard/ranger from archer, thief/ninja from rogue, etc etc. I will forever mourn the fact I can't play a pure archer or a ranger but it is what it is.
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    Yasuo Theunforgiven
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    Yea I don't think Yoshi p would give us another pet job. He doesn't like pet jobs in general.
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    i think yoshi P struggle is more understand pet jobs then not like them they hard to balance against non pet jobs. the question for pets job is how much dps does pet generate and how much does player generate vs how a non pet job player generate

    the solution to balance a pet job is pretty easy through

    a summoner and her pet equal the same amount dps as does a normal dps job together.

    if your black mage= summoner and it pet

    if you adopt this view to pet jobs then it work pretty well i like ask yoshi p why is he dislike pet jobs i think normal devs dislike would balance
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    Last edited by Savagelf; 04-18-2021 at 02:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savagelf View Post
    i think yoshi P struggle is more understand pet jobs then not like them they hard to balance against non pet jobs. the question for pets job is how much dps does pet generate and how much does player generate vs how a non pet job player generate

    the solution to balance a pet job is pretty easy through

    a summoner and her pet equal the same amount dps as does a normal dps job together.

    if your black mage= summoner and it pet

    if you adopt this view to pet jobs then it work pretty well i like ask yoshi p why is he dislike pet jobs i think normal devs dislike would balance
    This is overly simplistic of pet jobs. And ignores things like coding issues, ai, scenarios such as the pet being killed, or so invulnerable it is just a passive dps (which is piss poor design) and not really a pet anymore. Pet jobs are notoriously hard to balance in every single MMO.
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    Definitely wish we had some kind of pure archer/sagittarius job because I am never touching bard since singing to assist others and support absolutely ruin my archer dps job fantasy.
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    The tryhard elitist is the person who is going to finish their 5 pieces on this created to be beaten """"challenge"""" and then complaint that the baby, slower or less dexterous person are a problem which not only is toxic but indirectly implies that doing this basic created to be beaten task faster is an """achievement""" of """great skill""" which helps to falsely boost the elitist's self worth as that is their true motive, if challenge was truly their desire they would relish in the chance to do more than the rest.
    The healthy person on the other hand will either let people finish their part or assist them for their self worth does not depend on solving basic puzzles created to be beaten, aka as a video game.

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    Feronar Bloodfang
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    They could attach it to the Archer class alongside Bard, similar to how Scholar and Summoner are both attached to the Arcanist class.
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    Aribeth Lightbringer
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    i don't think they need attach it to any class i think it just need seperate job like scholar should be there been rumor of get ride of arcanist at some point.
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