Thread: Revelations from Patch 5.5 (Part 1)

Originally Posted by Theodric

Regarding Magitek:

I've long since given up trying to work out the limitations and perks of magitek at this point. There isn't much rhyme or reason to it beyond 'rule of cool' being put into play. It used to be that all magitek had a certain style to it clearly influenced by FFVI in particular - with some additional elements weaved in from time to time from FFXII.

It was specifically Allagan technology that happened to be super advanced and Garlean technology was initially portrayed as being powerful but not quite as powerful or as advanced as what the Allagans brought to the table.

Yet over time, they effectively became one and the same. Werylt gave us artifical Eikons and super advanced robots. Regula was able to use his trusty blade to summon forth a ceruleum familiar in the form of a proud tiger. There's many other specific examples I could draw upon, but basically...magitek is very, very different now to how it happened to be during the days of ARR.

Although I totally agree with you Theo (you know the world is ending when I find myself agreeing with you more and more! ), however I put that down to being a necessary weasel for adding other FF games machina into FFXIV - 1.0 Garlean technology all seemed to be fairly consistant in that it always utilized the standard 'cereleum engine' which was that catherine-wheel jet thing that stuck out the back of all Garlean technologies, from juggernauts to the Agrius. But starting with the introduction of FFVI magitek armour (both Amano's art design and the 'FFVI sprite' version), that started to change, and the cereleum tech seemed to get... far more advanced, to the point the actual engine became barely seen, lost among a mass of pipes or decorations. And once they added FFXII Ifrit-class airships into the game with their silly 'glossair rings', all bets were off.

So yeah, I guess there has definetely been a drift in the meaning of 'magitek' itself - no longer a fancy word for 'cereleum powered', it basically just means "Garlean high-tech" now, encompassing any kind of weird yet advanced technology.

To borrow a phrase from a series that shall not be named, G'raha is "still in his promotional period." It's easy to forget that Alphinaud and Alisaie had theirs, too, in the leadup to Heavensward and Stormblood respectively. Krile also got hers in the form of the Triad story, but then she basically took over as a less intrusive Minfilia and continues to dwell primarily in side stories.

We don't really know where G'raha will land after 5.55 (or if he'll even still be breathing), but there's a distinct possibility that he's still around the way he is because we need somebody else who remembers Emet-Selch. Their time together in Aumarot could be one big Schrodinger's Gun as far as the writers are concerned.

(That link is to TV Tropes. Do not click it unless you are prepared to get lost for a few hours.)

Originally Posted by Fenral

To borrow a phrase from a series that shall not be named, G'raha is "still in his promotional period." It's easy to forget that Alphinaud and Alisaie had theirs, too, in the leadup to Heavensward and Stormblood respectively. Krile also got hers in the form of the Triad story, but then she basically took over as a less intrusive Minfilia and continues to dwell primarily in side stories.

We don't really know where G'raha will land after 5.55 (or if he'll even still be breathing), but there's a distinct possibility that he's still around the way he is because we need somebody else who remembers Emet-Selch. Their time together in Aumarot could be one big Schrodinger's Gun as far as the writers are concerned.

(That link is to TV Tropes. Do not click it unless you are prepared to get lost for a few hours.)

Krile is a side story? Dude she is literally the one moving the plot forward now. Recruiting for Estinien, pushing the Sharlayan intrigue, and tossing out the idea to free Hydaelyn from whatever is stopping her from speaking. That is not side story my friend.

G'raha needs better writing though (his creepy nature aside). At this juncture, because he's seen the dark timeline, can be around to say these final days are just as bad/worse then what the dark timeline had and maybe say hey I have the Allagen blood that will let us work the spaceship to go to the moon. In the mean time he'll make googly eyes. Even if he's an anime trope, the writing could be way better.

Originally Posted by Kesey

Krile is a side story? Dude she is literally the one moving the plot forward now. Recruiting for Estinien, pushing the Sharlayan intrigue, and tossing out the idea to free Hydaelyn from whatever is stopping her from speaking. That is not side story my friend.

I think he meant more that her character is explored more in side content. I.e. Warring Triad and Eureka