Thread: Revelations from Patch 5.5 (Part 1)

Originally Posted by Cilia

As someone who neither likes nor dislikes G'raha, I'd have to say the main reason people dislike him is because they don't (or can't) appreciate his boyish charm. He's kind, earnest, and helpful, and... not everyone likes that in a character.

Plus he's been getting a lot of screentime as of late in order to establish him as a core member of the cast after spending all of Shadowbringers' MSQ as the deuteragonist, and having a character you don't like on screen is going to grate on peoples' nerves.

I feel his behavior is beyond the kind, earnest and helpful and comes off as the creepy personality who is only helpful to get closer to the thing he wants. The issue isn't a matter of opinions being misinterpreted some actually see his behavior as wholly inappropriate and intrusive. After the scene in the cave in Azys Lla has shown he has no regard for people beyond his own needs and wants. It also does not reflect the character portrayed as the Crystal Exarch, we got a bait and switch predator. If he isn't reigned in he is going to ruin the story.

Originally Posted by Kesey

I feel his behavior is beyond the kind, earnest and helpful and comes off as the creepy personality who is only helpful to get closer to the thing he wants. The issue isn't a matter of opinions being misinterpreted some actually see his behavior as wholly inappropriate and intrusive. After the scene in the cave in Azys Lla has shown he has no regard for people beyond his own needs and wants. It also does not reflect the character portrayed as the Crystal Exarch, we got a bait and switch predator. If he isn't reigned in he is going to ruin the story.

I mean, while some players may not like his conduct, no one in the narrative has any issues with him, no more so than poking fun at his expense, like Thancred's "conquests" Alph's inability to not be in charge or Alisase's act first, think later mentality. As for the cave scene, I'm not sure what you mean, was it his little "show" in recreating our first meeting? Because if so, it's hardly the first time a character has taken some time while we're on the clock, cleaning Y'shtola's room, baking bread and entertaining children come to mind off the top of my head, so I'll give him his 60 seconds. If it was him thanking us for brining him, then I'm not sure what to tell you, it wasn't just like he's tagging along, he was useful on the venture given his knowledge and blood so I'm really unsure what he did wrong there.

As for not being the Exarch, that's the point, because he isn't, the man himself, Urianger and Beq Lugg all said they had no idea what would happen to him when he merged with his younger self, he isn't the Exarch anymore, nor is he the young Graha, he's a mixture of the both and he's trying to find his feet as whoever that is and they said this several times before and after it happened so not sure where the "bait and switch" happened.

To your "predator" point... not even sure where to begin with this one, him having a huge admiration for the PC hardly makes him a predator he's also done a horrid job of getting near us given two of his three plans ended in his own death and he got lucky that he in fact not only didn't die but made it back to the source in possession of his time in the prevented timeline and first, he did not ask for a spot on the team, he was offered one by everyone else and so far he's pulled his weight when out on missions with us, he's never just "been there" for the sake of it. He also makes no effort to stick with us once we out in the field, either suggesting we split up depending on who can do what best or if it's suggested by someone else agreeing with zero complaints.
Finally Graha is probably the last character who could be described as having "no regard for people beyond his own needs and wants" Ignoring all he did as the Exarch, all he's done since getting to the Source is help, asking how he can contribute.

Originally Posted by Kesey

we got a bait and switch predator.

I . . . just . . . what?

. . . I guess you really must have hated Haurchefant.

Originally Posted by Naria

I . . . just . . . what?

. . . I guess you really must have hated Haurchefant.

Or Alisaie, or Aymeric and probably many more since quite a few NPCs seems to really love us.
I really like Graha and I give him these moments but I also hope that he gets a bit less starstruck over the time. Just like I really like Alisaie but got very annoyed with her constant jealousy on the first.