Thread: Revelations from Patch 5.5 (Part 1)

Originally Posted by Alleo

About Nier raid

Maybe he did that in his games but he is only a guest in this one and imo we should have gottenat least a mostly whole story line when running it the first time. Right now we have nothing at all. If you had not played his other games you wont really know or imo care about the Nier characters and I really doubt that they will go out of the way to include redoing the whole raids but with a twist. (Which would mean a whole lot of new cutscenes for all of them + all the missing information) Of course I dont know how long these weekly quests will go until they are finished but I doubt that most players will even try to do them. At most (imo) we will get another cutscene at the end where we will meet the brother again and maybe find a way to save his sister or conclude it in another way.

Also what realistically could the player even sacrifice if we would get such another ending? The other dwarf?

About the last point...spoilers for final surprise for the endings of Nier and Nier: Automata below.

In Nier and Nier: Automata (albeit optional there) you sacrificed the entirety of your save data. Considering Yoko Taro would want people to sacrifice something else, but be unable to do anything extravagant due to this being an MMO, I won't be surprised if you are forced to forfeit all rewards from that run of the duty in order to get the other ending, or that he'll do a more story "sacrifice" type thing, making it so that section of Kholusia is "reset" back to before the 24 mans first started (albeit with differences) without any NPCs or the WoL remembering either other as if it never happened.

Originally Posted by Alleo

About those points

And I honestly would still not care more for the raid. Having to give up your rewards (I guess you mean unique rewards otherwise it makes it even less harsh) feels just bad in a MMO where rewards are often the big carrots to continue playing. People would also just take the rewards and watch the cutscene on youtube.

It being reset is not something that makes much sense to me. So would you be 100% locked out of a whole raid forever or have to just unlock it again (which would be imo tedious)? The characters forgetting everything would make the raid imo even more useless because in the end it also changed nothing for the people on this world.

Having to do certain things to get an ending in a game including deleting your save file is logical in a game that you probably wont even play more after finally seeing the big ending.

Some spiffy old timer ramblin'

It really wouldn't be that bad. In FFXI, in order to see Luzaf's soul to its eternal rest, and free him from the shackles of the Dark Divinity, you had to repeat a once a week fight 13 times after your initial clear. Every week you had to give the reward selection the same answer, "Free Luzaf's Soul." Each week you were met with indifference by the Dark Divinity, but on the 14th week it finally relents. You swear away your own soul in place of Luzaf's, and are granted a unique title.

Compared to 3 and a half months of reward forfeiture, giving up one week would be nothing. It's already nothing for a lot of players who don't need the rewards from the tower. Redoing the raids would be no different than the reward scenario for the original Crystal Tower side quest involving Noah with the Oneiromantic(Dream Discovery) Pearls.