Thread: Revelations from Patch 5.5 (Part 1)

Originally Posted by Yasminou

Sorrow of Werlyt

I might be misunderstanding you but when she appeared, although I don't think she was named, the first option that I had was "It is good to see you, M'naago" (or something like that in French). I assumed that I had this option because I was rank 5 in her custom delivery quests.
Do you have her last achievement unlocked? Maybe it is the prerequisite for this option.

Maybe parachute, maybe clown care. Some ants toot!

I haven't done any of her custom deliveries, and I got the option to say hey M'naago too hehe

Originally Posted by Anonymoose

I'm not sure where this fits into a reply or if anybody's mentioned it but as far as remote-tempering goes

Lore-wise, Bahamut remote-tempered Nael and Midas through the coincidentally(?) named Lunar Transmitter in like 2012, so there's that, lol. I think we're just seeing what happens when an Ascian has all the toys and no interest in balanced, controlled escalation for a Calamity that requires hyperspecific conditions.

Definitely what I was thinking.

Something that's going to be nice about Fandaniel is that he's going to be a more competent version of Nabriales. No holds barred. Tempering by Bahamut is pretty whacky. He tempered Lewie Six(sorry raid mate calls him this and I can't resist) as they were both dying... and the tempering held when they both reconstituted later.

MSQ tidbit cause I'm still trapped at work.

So when Zenos picked up the Odenta, and then cast it at Fandaniel I was kinda happy. It's the DRK's i360/370 weapon from Stormblood, and I used it as my LP alt's DRK glam weapon for quite sometime.

It was nice to be able to recognize all of the weapons in there as well. I saw a Genji Greataxe. Seiryu greatsword. It made me wonder where they went to acquire all of those, since those are all of our past conquests.

It also made me think to myself, "Heh, Zenos is displeased having our *Ilberd impression* sloppy! seconds.

Originally Posted by Iscah

I don't think it's the first hint of it, either.

There have certainly been a few moments where they talk about Garleans being taught to have a godlike reverence for the Emperor, and whether that might be the Ascians angling to summon a primal (or at least have the ability to do so if convenient).

While that's a little different to the idea of summoning the "concept of Garlemald as a nation", what better form could someone think to give such a concept than its ruler?

I would also venture to ask

What difference is there in the summoning a concept of a nation and summoning a newly created will of the planet?

So my thoughts on the stories:

Werlyt

As soon as Mr. IamsoEvil told Allie that her brother was brought to a save place I knew that he was death. That she believed his words is just stupid imo and that she somehow missed him or thought that she could just steal it without there being a "off" button is quite naive.

I am not that annoyed that she survived because I do like my happy endings but its still sad that it was her and not at least her and her brother. But female NPCs just have a much better rate surviving in this game. She also suffered from some consequences but that was already solved at the end.

Redemption is also fine and I agree that one should let go of past hate otherwise you wont move on with your life but I do not agree how Gaius got away with everything. Of course he is suddenly the leader for the raid and afterwards will help rebuilt..after everything he has done until now. The only reason why he is on the path he is right now was because he was played by an Ascian and got his ass kicked by us. When Lahabrea revealed his plan he did not turn onto him...he still was like "lets talk later I need to smash these insects before me first". And I have a very hard time that he never once noticed what is wrong in his country...its unbelievable for me.

But I guess after all he has done he still gets a free pass unlike Fordola who has to run around with a detonator on her neck and still has to serve her time in prison.

Hopefully this was his major role in the story and hopefully that means that he wont be a possible leader of future Garlemald.

Nier

I was told we should wait until the last act because the creator of Nier loves to push a lot of story behind the last arc. Yet here I am having no clue how it makes sense at all. For me this is the absolute worst raid story until now, even something like Alexander was better.

There is no explanation to fit it into the game and the Nier characters who only got truly introduced in the last patch are already gone...should I have felt something when they disappeared? Heck I did not even feel much for the dwarf Sister. At least the brother is save but somehow on a quest to get more information...how? The first barely exist anymore..how would he suddenly get information on Aliens?

If we somehow get all the info dumps with these weekly quests than that would still be bad storytelling imo but honestly I really doubt we will get much out of it.

Rebuilding the city also feels kinda useless..its tiny and feels like most is still intact. Honestly the rebuilding should have been done in a week...

So yeah this raid is an absolute disappointment for me. Bosses felt so random if you have no idea about Nier, the tower itself was not great to look at and the story was barely even there...but at least the music was good.

MSQ

Finally Tiamat is free. Interesting that she too was tempered but thankfully we got her out of it. The dungeon itself felt great especially with her there.

I love that the city states are leaving their past behind and try to be better. Some might not like it or think that it will take the edge away but at the same time wasnt it always a point that they still had their own demons to face? But now that they are at least facing them and trying to change for the better, yet I have already read that this is not good?

Graha Tia is a delight and he and the twins will be my dream team for the trusts. I also love that Estinien was joining us and his (and Arenvalds) interactions with Alphinaud and his meeting with Alisaie were pure gold. I also loved that Alisaie was a bit jealous.

I really hope that Arenvald survives it but I guess he might be the change that is needed to make Alphinaud into the new healer job.

The towers are really creepy and I hope that we will deal with them over time. Also doesnt the story kinda hint that most of the civilians in the city of Garlemald are now tempered? Ouch that sucks. Thankfully we got our plot device Angel that will save them. (I just roll my eyes when they are totally out of Aether in one second and quite fine the next..)

I do not like the talk at the end about Hydealyn. Of course its good to know more about her but I really hope that they dont go into the directions that she tempers too because it makes no sense...we are not acting like someone who is tempered (we barely even talk about her and our goals are mostly to just save the planet and the people living on it) Also I kinda doubt that Middy was just able to lock away our tempering when he sealed the crystals...we also did not act much different there either.

And Ysthola should have seen something on our soul if we were.

Also why should she be disappointed in us? In the german version they ask if she is either to weak to talk or that we have fallen from her grace. But what should we have done to deserve that? She wanted to save the first otherwise she would not have sent Minfilia there. She told us that the Ascians are her enemies thus us destroying the big ones should be great...

I really hope that its just a red hering..otherwise we would have to deal with Zodiark and Hydealyn in 6.0 which already feels like it could be too rushed.

MSQ Thoughts:

Interesting to see that Tiamat is back. Was wondering if they were ever going to bring her back. The dungeon was very nice and a nice change of pace across the board. I was very very very happy to see Graha take somewhat of a backseat this patch(besides his stupid eye sparkle moment). Something i thought was interesting was when the scions were talking to Tiamat, they were goading her into helping them with anger by using Ascians in a general term(even though its only one right now) but then refer to Fandaniel's alone as the Telephoroi, separating him from normal Ascians.The tower thing is pretty interesting, and something i've yet to see people note is that during the Amaljaa tower startup, we see an odd blue glow(almost....Hydaelyn blue!) so that will be interesting to see what comes from that. It's about time people started questioning Hydy though, it took them long enough to finally address it. Maybe now more people wont be able to be oblivious to some of her obvious shadyness.