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    Just some more NieR Dark Apocalypse stuff I noticed that also applies to Puppet's Bunker (so it may have been mentioned back in 5.3 lore thread).

    The angelic script is exactly the same as the Black Scrawl text in NieR Replicant... and 2010 NieR, though the angelic script used for T was what looked like a T and not a U. From the wiki:
    The four Angelic Script characters that compose the Black Scrawl are Aleph, Cheth, Gimel and Thes, or A, C, G, and T. These characters likely represent the DNA nucleobases of Adenine, Cytosine, Guanine, and Thymine, indicating that the Black Scrawl represents the breakdown of a Replicant's DNA.
    Honestly beginning to think Red Girl is/was Sleeping Beauty from NieR Replicant/Gestalt at this point.
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    Regarding Nier:

    I still find it hilarious that Earth is now technically part of FFXIV's canon. Or at least the version of Earth that serves as the backdrop for the adventures of the real 2B and 9S.

    I picked up Nier Replicant in no small part due to the raid itself. I'm enjoying it a lot so far, even more than Nier Automata. Lots of wonderful nuance, morally grey characters and brilliant music.
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  3. #283
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Regarding Nier:

    I still find it hilarious that Earth is now technically part of FFXIV's canon. Or at least the version of Earth that serves as the backdrop for the adventures of the real 2B and 9S.

    I picked up Nier Replicant in no small part due to the raid itself. I'm enjoying it a lot so far, even more than Nier Automata. Lots of wonderful nuance, morally grey characters and brilliant music.
    Reminds me of PSO2.
    Earth was added to that game, but was basically thrown in a pretty bad way (the Episode itself is disliked by the majority of the playerbase). This way could be considered...better, I guess?

    Also, I'm going to apologize in advance for your tears. By the time you're done with Replicant, you'll understand why so many of us cried while hearing the music at the end of the 3rd Nier raid, and probably never be able to hear it the same way again.
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  4. #284
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    PSO2 doesn't surprise me much.
    I know the Online games aren't the same continuity as the old turn based games but Earthlings turned out to be bad guys in the end of PS2 and one of the PS3 endings ended with your ship arriving at Earth.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    PSO2 doesn't surprise me much.
    I know the Online games aren't the same continuity as the old turn based games but Earthlings turned out to be bad guys in the end of PS2 and one of the PS3 endings ended with your ship arriving at Earth.
    The only problem with it was mostly...spoilers below for Episode 4 of PSO2.
    It was an isekai. PSO2 was a game on Earth in an alternate dimension and you basically some how end up there, with the entire plot dealing with it. First few chapters of it were pretty bad, feeling like a slice of life before it actually got to the meat of things. Hell, you took a back seat a lot during Episode 4's plot while other characters were the main importance, which was completely different from Episode 1-3 where you took an active part in it. Luckily Episodes 5 and 6 rectified this.


    But onto more important Nier raid quest things,
    I'm suspecting that Glagg is in fact himself a machine being. Besides explaining the bizarre actions as a form of malfunctioning, it gives us somebody who can give actual exposition onto what the hell is going on and how Nier fits into FFXIV.
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    I finally did week 3 of YorHa and
    as usual it makes no sense.
    I skipped all discussion relating other games like Drakengard because they have nothing to do with FFXIV and I have absolutely no interest in them. The thought that I need to play 10 other games to understand what is going on in an alliance raid is unacceptable to me.
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  7. #287
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erendis View Post
    I finally did week 3 of YorHa and
    as usual it makes no sense.
    I skipped all discussion relating other games like Drakengard because they have nothing to do with FFXIV and I have absolutely no interest in them. The thought that I need to play 10 other games to understand what is going on in an alliance raid is unacceptable to me.
    Frankly having played Nier and Automata and having a passing understanding of drakengard, the plot of the raid series doesn't really make any more sense if you played them. You just pick up on more surface level references.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    Frankly having played Nier and Automata and having a passing understanding of drakengard, the plot of the raid series doesn't really make any more sense if you played them. You just pick up on more surface level references.
    This. Having thorough knowledge of the Nier and Drakengard games does not help explain what's going on (in usual Yoko Taro fashion), but mostly just gives you theories. It's either going to be spelled out to us within the next 2 weeks, or be left with a vague telling on how it happened. Though judging from how the previous 4 quests had us go through Copied Factory and Puppet's Bunker exploration twice, expect us to get a double dose (somehow) of Paradigm's Breach that will explain it.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Nier weekly quest 5
    Glagg's emotions are all over the place, and apparently Konogg was fully aware that Anogg was dead and didn't want to admit it to himself. Konogg seems to be wanting to use the spheres to bring her back. And as anybody who has played the original Drakengard can tell you...that is a REALLY bad idea.
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    Tidbits, kiddos!
    After 5.5 yielded little in the way of answers, I did remember the white sphere (Seed of Creation / Destruction, or just "Seed" for short) had Drakengard-verse angelic writing on it, so I looked up the script and tried to translate that... but it was just repeating the same character(s), so the effort didn't seem worthwhile. Interesting that the characters translate to the base code for DNA, but I don't see what value that knowledge is.

    On the other hand, there's lots more "angelic" script used in the fights against the False Idol and Her Inflorescence. I doubt it would provide any additional context, but if someone wants to translate it that's a good lead. (I'm not quite that dedicated, lol.)

    One last note is that when Her Inflorescence summons trains to run over the party, the text box doesn't use her name. Instead the line(s), which include stuttering and trailing into Japanese characters, are "spoken" by what translates from hexadecimal to "Voice" (766F696365). I don't recall seeing this happen elsewhere, and it doesn't provide any context, but it's a neat little thing to notice.

    One more week and we'll see if there's any big payoff in Konogg's last datalog, I guess.
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