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    On Werlyt...

    Did that today. Far from the most difficult of the bunch, but fun, although the lack of an Oversoul like Ruby's and Emerald's was a letdown. And also far from the worst redemption story they could've given Gaius and I suppose he will probably be representing Werlyt going forward if he has any MSQ presence. One could be forgiven for thinking the MC has picked up the former Emissary's old job of reconciliation with all of that going on recently. With the projected memories released at the end, I am kind of wondering if they're planning something similar for Zodiark and the ancients, "at duty's end", maybe with his crystal's core.

    Also... mini Valens.

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    Last edited by Lauront; 04-19-2021 at 09:19 AM.
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    The Nier raid series was always a blatant advertisement for a completely unrelated game and therefore was always BS. Some of y'all are just figuring this out now. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    The Nier raid series was always a blatant advertisement for a completely unrelated game and therefore was always BS. Some of y'all are just figuring this out now. lol
    I had said this awhile ago but was met with a lot of rage from nier/yoko taro fans
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    I'm not a Yoko Taro buff, but...
    As I recall none of the endings to Drakengard 3 lead to the first game; that timeline exists as a sort of mish-mash of various endings to 3 that's only fully detailed in a companion manga. It's Yoko Taro though, so timey-wimey shenanigans are plausibly in play.

    The ultimate read I get is that the Machines (and 2B / 9S) didn't literally crash on Norvrandt; rather the Seed of (Resurrection / Destruction) somehow made its way there and recreated them, who then set about building the Factory and replica Bunker as per their directives. That would be why the Factory and Bunker are still around while the Tower is not; as the Tower was a direct creation of the Seed, it disappeared when Her Inflorescence was defeated, but as secondary products of its influence the Factory and Bunker are still around.

    Anyway, those with eagle eyes will notice that the first two bosses (Knave of Hearts and Hansel and Gretel) also feature dialogue in hex. It's incomplete, so you have to transliterate it and fill in the gaps like a Wheel of Fortune puzzle, but I went through the trouble of translating it... regrettably it offers no real insight, being just more faux-philosophical dialogue as per Yoko Taro's idiom.

    Knave of Hearts
    Aggro: In distant memory
    Roar (1st cast): Once we
    Defeat: Were one

    Hansel & Gretel
    Aggro (Gretel): People
    Aggro (Hansel): Need people
    Defeat (1/2): Still you
    Defeat (2/2): Take and take

    ... but yes, if they said you don't need to have played any of Yoko Taro's previous works to understand this they'd be lying. But it's Yoko Taro, so I dunno what you were expecting.
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    Yoshi p said it himself, along with yoko taro. Granted both lie a lot but still. At this point it really does just feel like an advertisement and i see why they usually leave collabs to mini events because otherwise we get this mess A story that doesn’t fit into 14 at all.
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    So, Nier was basically:

    Big white ball appears from another dimension, creates some robots and 24-man alliance raids, then leaves? That about sum it up?

    Man, I had a lot of hope they'd knock it clean out the park with the finale but that story was by far the most disappointing alliance raid story so far.

    I hope that 6.0 can reverse the trend of the 24-man stories getting worse with every expansion.
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    Last edited by Jandor; 04-19-2021 at 05:04 PM.

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    I really liked Nier, though I crave more so here's hoping as its not quite over just yet.
    Though if I had to rate the Alliance raid stories, given Nier's isn't finished, I'd put them:
    1. Crystal Tower
    2. YoRhA
    3. Mhach
    4. Ivalice

    I'm curious where the weeklies might go, I'm not expecting all the answers or any, just more from this story line as it intrigues me and I actually like the Dwarfs.
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    regarding nier items
    Ngl i’m just still upset we didn’t get a 9s outfit in the end. They gave us 2b’s coffer(female outfit) and the final raid gear is mainly female themed. Where’s the male clothes?I get Nier is mainly females and stuff but there’s at least some male outfits they could’ve given out (9s or Adam for starters. It was all i was looking forward to from the raid really and despite yoshi p’s promise of “you’ll get what you want.” I didn’t get any of the things that really should’ve been there considering i believe 9s is a pretty big character in automata.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    regarding nier items
    Ngl i’m just still upset we didn’t get a 9s outfit in the end. They gave us 2b’s coffer(female outfit) and the final raid gear is mainly female themed. Where’s the male clothes?I get Nier is mainly females and stuff but there’s at least some male outfits they could’ve given out (9s or Adam for starters. It was all i was looking forward to from the raid really and despite yoshi p’s promise of “you’ll get what you want.” I didn’t get one of the things that really should’ve been there considering i believe 9s is a pretty big character in automata.
    Aren't the striking and scouting sets from Copied Factory a FFXIV rendition of 9S's outfit when worn by guys? I know the black's a little off, but coulda sworn that set was in the game already.
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    Player KizuyaKatogami's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    Aren't the striking and scouting sets from Copied Factory a FFXIV rendition of 9S's outfit when worn by guys? I know the black's a little off, but coulda sworn that set was in the game already.
    It’s a rendition but not the exact thing, but regarding that argument, the female copied factory set is 2b’s outfit. They still gave a 2b coffer despite that, so there’s really no reason they shouldn’t have given us a 9s outfit as well.(not to mention the 9s ones are of course, role locked as well.)
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    On the one hand I get the idea of 'they gave us 2B's feminine outfit they should give us 9S for balance.'

    But on the other hand I can't help but also think it sounds like 'it wasn't enough we got one bonus glamour coffer beyond what alliance raids normally give us, we demand a second one.'
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