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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    ^ this....

    And as a woman who has dealt with creeps and unwanted attention... yeah no G'raha is meeting somewhat from his point of view a historical figure he's most likely only read about in Count Edmont's Journal (Estinien) so look at it from the perspective that he may see it as ... he's literally meeting history! He's meeting someone Like Abraham Lincoln or Napoleon etc.... he's literally geeking out.

    Edit: And to be quite honest I'd be acting the same way especially if I met my distant Cousin Paul Revere.
    Thing is, there’s a time and place. There’s a literal apocalypse going on with people being sacrificed and dying but meanwhile we have Graha making sparkly eyes at every person he meets. It ruins the immersion and seriousness of the plot and he just has no place in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    Thing is, there’s a time and place. There’s a literal apocalypse going on with people being sacrificed and dying but meanwhile we have Graha making sparkly eyes at every person he meets. It ruins the immersion and seriousness of the plot and he just has no place in it.
    This is exactly it. The voice over G'raha at the end of 5.3 should be the G'raha we have. He was serious in the face of the coming threat. Someone who knows terrible things are afoot and potentially is willing to deal with it in a mature manner befitting his history and role in it.

    The 5.4 and 5.5 iteration erased all of that and made him a caricature of a border line predator who won't take anything serious because its the fun adventure he always wanted. This personality was unwarranted makes him not the mature and wise person he was on the First. Stakes are so high in the coming expansion is G'raha just going to go cry in his crystal tower when he has to watch a hero like Alphinaud or Estinien get cut down or be separated from the WOL for a period of time?
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    Each to their own, I guess. My tastes lean towards the likes of Hien, Estinien and Gaius of the characters that are still around. Of the female characters that are still around I guess I'd go with Fordola or Radlia.

    Even then, though, I wouldn't want those characters to excessively fawn over my character - but I've found the hero worship to have worn thin for quite some time now, even before G'raha returned to the story.
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    Yeah, okay. Let's just ignore that Alisaie's entire mood this patch, even as Arenvald is on his death bed, is basically, "Yeah, I'm amazing! Nobody can stop me!" G'raha's definitely the only problem in the cast right now.


    (If they make it out alive, at least three Scions are due for a swift kick in the ass next story update.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenral View Post
    Yeah, okay. Let's just ignore that Alisaie's entire mood this patch, even as Arenvald is on his death bed, is basically, "Yeah, I'm amazing! Nobody can stop me!" G'raha's definitely the only problem in the cast right now.


    (If they make it out alive, at least three Scions are due for a swift kick in the ass next story update.)
    I mean, i’m not arguing with that. Personally i find both Graha and Alisaie annoying. However i will say Graha is a much more constant annoyance and he’s been that way for awhile. Constantly making every single plot point about him and trying to be the center of attention. He’s essentially Alisaie to the extreme.
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    Well, I can't speak for anyone else but I've never really cared much for Alisae either.

    I didn't get the impression from Arenvald that he was overly confident or arrogant, though. He specifically has a somber moment where he reflects on not being as strong or special as a lot of other combatants. That aside, the last time he showed up in the story as a major focus was back in 4.1, which is quite some time ago now. Alisae and G'raha have been given far more focus since that point which I'd wager contributes to why they're starting to wear thin/overstay their welcome for some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Well, I can't speak for anyone else but I've never really cared much for Alisae either.
    My God I really don't like Alisaie.
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    Estinien's reaction to her was funny at least.
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    When the game's story becomes self-aware:


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