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    Reddit as a whole is just a trash fire my dude. Also ironically the crapposting 14 reddit is better than the main one. However, to answer your other point it's just people being tired of lewd posting that becomes the norm if unchecked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post

    Small rant but I just don't understand it and it legit actually does make me a bit mad.
    This complete unnecessary cruelty and toxicity is really upsetting to me and it's not reflective of my actual experience with the community ingame at all.
    It's like two separate universes and it makes using the Reddit page an extremely negative experience.
    As an Artist, I can say there are a lot of great places to post artwork; Reddit is sadly not one of those places; at least from my experience; as it feels a lot of the time reddit users are very much going to favor what appeals to them the most and very rarely will look at something as a piece of art, but instead as a image of whatever they prefer to be looking at.

    I don't exactly blame them, Reddit isn't a art website; although there are art focused subreddits, and those fair much better, but i personally prefer something like DeviantArt, ArtStation, Behance, or Fanfictiondotnet.

    EDIT: Nuts, i should post something of substance, xD; uhmm, here's a piece of artwork i was making for Cyberpunk that i never finished.

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  3. #263
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    Reddit as a whole is just a trash fire my dude. Also ironically the crapposting 14 reddit is better than the main one. However, to answer your other point it's just people being tired of lewd posting that becomes the norm if unchecked.
    Except that it's not the norm.
    And '' lewd posting '' is even more rare I mean cmon, again go and actually have a look how can you say that?

    Part of my point was also the contrast between the comments and the votes on the actual post itself.
    Some posts definitely do get downvoted or are a bit more mixed, but even if the post has like 95-99% upvotes the comment section will still be full of negativity and toxicity with positive comments being downvoted.
    So why do those negative people get to decide on behalf of the 95-99% people who clearly don't have an issue?

    The truth is too that you can hide NSFW tagged art.
    Again I do think that the tag gets abused A LOT, but even if you have like some personal issue with '' lewd art '' you can hide it.
    And even if you don't hide the tag you literally have to go out of your way to actually click '' show me ''.
    But instead people choose to actively expose themselves to it and then throw a tantrum about it in the comments and bully people about it.

    People are acting like some angry religious aunt who watched South Park on purpose and then got really mad that they heard the F-word and decided to group up with other aunts to bomb with angry phone calls.

    Quote Originally Posted by Neoyoshi View Post
    As an Artist, I can say there are a lot of great places to post artwork; Reddit is sadly not one of those places; at least from my experience; as it feels a lot of the time reddit users are very much going to favor what appeals to them the most and very rarely will look at something as a piece of art, but instead as a image of whatever they prefer to be looking at.

    I don't exactly blame them, Reddit isn't a art website; although there are art focused subreddits, and those fair much better, but i personally prefer something like DeviantArt, ArtStation, Behance, or Fanfictiondotnet.

    EDIT: Nuts, i should post something of substance, xD; uhmm, here's a piece of artwork i was making for Cyberpunk that i never finished.

    Really cool art, I enjoy the thick lines especially I am a big fan of that type of lineart.

    While it's true that Reddit isn't an art website, the Reddit in question is a page for the fans of the game and they still do have art tags etc.
    I mean Reddit isn't dedicated to one thing, but one thing that is part of Reddit is art.
    Otherwise a tag wouldn't exist for it.

    I mean if we were talking about a political Reddit page for example I could understand people getting mad about it.
    But when we're talking about fanart for a video game on the Reddit page for the game I think people getting upset about it are being pretty dumb.
    And it's very specifically biased against art too, then these same people sit around shitposting and posting copy pasted memes etc.

    Edit: Also I totally agree with you about people being super biased towards what appeals to them personally and that's also part of the issue.
    People act insanely entitled and they'll praise art that they personally like but then act as if art they either dislike or are indifferent to don't have a right to exist altogether.
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  4. #264
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    Once again, there is a subreddit for 14 art. Nobody uses it and instead dumps them onto the main one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    Once again, there is a subreddit for 14 art. Nobody uses it and instead dumps them onto the main one.
    I used it once, and i guess like everyone else kinda stopped using it because there isn't much audience there, at least from what i remember, this was about 2 or 3 years ago i think.
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    I think a lot of Reddit's problems can be attributed to a troubling lack of the 'live and let live' mentality.

    The internet is home to people from all over the world. From all sorts of different backgrounds, cultures, countries and belief systems. Yet even something as minor as liking or disliking a specific type of food or a fictional character is enough to draw the ire of a very vocal and spiteful portion of posters on Reddit.

    The same individuals are often overly invested in the idea of pressuring others to think and feel exactly like they do. To a pretty alarming degree. It is what it is, I suppose - my personal thoughts on the matter are that the pendulum is probably going to start swinging back in the opposite direction. As it always has throughout history. I just hope it doesn't move too far and comes to rest in a sensible position.

    I've had some pretty negative experiences over there, personally. Something as innocent as answering a question about a favourite character can unfortunately turn into a nasty debate because some people can't separate reality from fiction and believe that supporting an antagonist in a fantasy game is equal to supporting murder in the real world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    Once again, there is a subreddit for 14 art. Nobody uses it and instead dumps them onto the main one.
    And why is that a problem unless you turn it into a problem deliberately yourself?
    Again people can keep saying that it's being '' flooded '' but it's objectively not true if you look yourself.

    There is no rule against art, so why is it any different than someone posting a meme?
    If anything I'd say that people posting memes adds less value overall but that's also a matter of opinion to some extent, personally I don't care about them at all and find them to be kinda boring most of the time.
    But I don't sit around downvoting them and derailing the comments and being an asshole towards people because of it.

    The reason why people would rather post their art on the main sub is quite self-evident.
    And the notion that it doesn't belong there is completely arbitrary and clearly not true since it's allowed and people at large don't have a problem with it.
    So why should a vocal minority that are just extremely loud be allowed to push it off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    And why is that a problem unless you turn it into a problem deliberately yourself?
    Again people can keep saying that it's being '' flooded '' but it's objectively not true if you look yourself.

    There is no rule against art, so why is it any different than someone posting a meme?
    If anything I'd say that people posting memes adds less value overall but that's also a matter of opinion to some extent, personally I don't care about them at all and find them to be kinda boring most of the time.
    But I don't sit around downvoting them and derailing the comments and being an asshole towards people because of it.

    The reason why people would rather post their art on the main sub is quite self-evident.
    And the notion that it doesn't belong there is completely arbitrary and clearly not true since it's allowed and people at large don't have a problem with it.
    So why should a vocal minority that are just extremely loud be allowed to push it off.
    Because it's the internet and it's not going to agree with you. Just accept the chaos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    For what it's worth, I'm glad you're here~
    Aww, that's nice to read. This is the only form of social media I actively use (other than YouTube I guess).

    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    Same. A lot of times I disagree with Sturm but it’s always refreshing to see their posts and replies because I know 9 out of 10 times theres going to be a pretty civil discussion to follow along.
    I suppose I will start a "debate" over almost anything and everything. For no particular reason.
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    Reddit's problem is the downvoting system. It promotes hive mentality in active subs, since it's so easy to "censor" opinions that aren't part of the majority.
    What the voting system was created for doesn't matter. People don't use it for its intended purpose, which was to discourage comments that don't contribute with the topic.
    The people who pretend it's not an issue are usually the ones who WANT an echo-chamber, consciously or not. Reddit provides them with the perfect environment not to deal with people disagreeing with them or being reminded they have a very fragile thin skin but refuse to grow up.

    Reddit is great for finding information/guides, but awful if you want to have actual discussion. Unless, again, it's a small sub with very few regulars.
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