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  1. #1531
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    Lauront's Avatar
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    Any of you have a tip for a good RPG where you can play an '' evil '' character but that isn't cartoonishly evil?
    Pref not a Bioware game already played them to death before, altho I am kinda considering DA:O since I don't think I've played a character like that in Origins before.
    Altho I kinda feel like Bioware games tend to fall into that category too much where you either play a goody two-shoes or cartoonishly evil character for the most part.

    Normally I play goody two-shoes character I kinda want to do something different without being a moustache twirling character.
    I've played Kotor 2 and the Divinity games and Pathfinder Kingmaker before too.
    Evil playthroughs are viable (even if imperfectly implemented) in Pillars of Eternity, and I'd recommend that game either way. Not too keen on its sequel or its attempt to supplant D20 mechanics, but it's fun. I would agree on what you say about Bioware games. I loved them, but (this may boil down to the D&D alignment system or how they handle it) they weren't good for capturing that kind of nuance in outlooks. In a lot of these games, being 'evil' tends to mean be nasty/petty/cruel for the sake of it, i.e. a focus on behaviours rather than motives or goals... and that isn't usually how I'd play such a character.
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  2. #1532
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    Caur Kagon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    Any of you have a tip for a good RPG where you can play an '' evil '' character but that isn't cartoonishly evil?
    Pref not a Bioware game already played them to death before, altho I am kinda considering DA:O since I don't think I've played a character like that in Origins before.
    Altho I kinda feel like Bioware games tend to fall into that category too much where you either play a goody two-shoes or cartoonishly evil character for the most part.

    Normally I play goody two-shoes character I kinda want to do something different without being a moustache twirling character.
    I've played Kotor 2 and the Divinity games and Pathfinder Kingmaker before too.
    Seconding the Fallout New Vegas suggestion. Evil playthrough legit have some pretty interesting out comes. In fact, the Legion path is one of my favorites.
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  3. #1533
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    AziraSyuren's Avatar
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    Azira Syuren
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caurcas View Post
    Seconding the Fallout New Vegas suggestion. Evil playthrough legit have some pretty interesting out comes. In fact, the Legion path is one of my favorites.
    I prefer a Mr. House or dickhead Yes Man playthrough tbh, the Legion has too much cut/unfinished content to be as satisfying.
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  4. #1534
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    Sturm Churro
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    Took me quite awhile to be able to log into the forums again, even though I had logged into the game over two days ago.. I can't help but laugh about this hrothgar hair drama. You accept mediocrity, you get mediocrity.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 04-04-2022 at 12:34 PM.
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  5. #1535
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    Sturm Churro
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    I have a newfound appreciation of the somewhat hands off approach of the moderation here. Over on the Lost Ark forums, they mass delete, ban, and blanket remove anything and everything related to any particular topic. We had a couple positive threads about their class artist, and just the skins in their game. Deleted. I posted in another thread about skins, and I watched in real time as my posts were hidden, and then subsequently deleted one by one, along with the person who replied to me. Not only that though, they then deleted the thread I bumped in it's entirety.

    Somehow, I was one of the few who didn't get banned.

    I'm sorry for taking you all for granted SE forum mods.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 04-04-2022 at 03:06 PM.
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  6. #1536
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    Hope Sunflame
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    Feel like past few days have been going great for me. Too great... is it the calm before the storm?! IDK, will see what the future brings I guess! If only I could top it off with boosting a Job to 90... nah, that's way too greedy and boosting is a bad practice.
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  7. #1537
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I have a newfound appreciation of the somewhat hands off approach of the moderation here.
    unless you talk about your bad experiences with the community a few times, because then they'll find laughable reasons to ban you, plus the selective moderation in general
    yes, I won't shut up about these issues because they're pretty damn huge ones
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    Last edited by ThivraK; 04-04-2022 at 09:12 PM.

  8. #1538
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Snip.
    I've noticed this too.
    In the end of the day there is no such thing as perfect moderation there will always be some bs that happens, but I'd rather take the moderation on this forum over the AGS moderation on the Lost Ark forums.
    Especially deleting threads that are actual discussions and feedback, they've deleted A LOT of threads talking about the demon form change too.
    I really REALLY hope that Smilegate decides to drop AGS at some point, the game director seem'd genuinely unhappy with them in the QnA before release he publically criticized them.

    I suppose some people will say that they're right for deleting the threads because AGS already gave a response and people keep making threads about it, but that's essentially just saying that we should accept what they said and just sit down and shut up about it...
    Which I fundamentally disagree with, I think people should keep voicing their concerns about these things because otherwise how will change ever happen if there's no pressure on them?
    It's the same with P2W too people shouldn't just bend over backwards and take it, they should keep talking about it.
    If AGS can just delete threads and pretend like they never existed then it becomes easy for them to just ignore genuine feedback and run the game like a dictatorship.
    It's especially shitty when it's not even their game and we have no idea what feedback they in reality decide to communicate to the actual devs or not.
    Even if the Korean devs read the forums too they won't see it if it's deleted... It's just extremely scummy.

    It's the same on the Steam forums too they've deleted threads systematically... It's not even locking too but just outright deletion which kinda says something, that's just trying to hide things.
    Some of the mods are clearly on a power trip...
    Another thing they do too is not '' unhide '' comments that have been hidden due to abuse of the report button, both comments I agree and disagree with but a lot of the ones I see that have been hidden are totally normal and aren't rude or anything they're just genuine feedback.
    And I see a lot of comments that some of the mods clearly disagree with that remain hidden permanently while some of the ones that are more in favor of their '' changes '' are unhidden.... It's so blatantly transparent especially when it's big threads and it's the OP being hidden but then another more in favor of them gets unhidden.

    Ultimately they have the power over what they choose to communicate and it feels like they're abusing that power.
    Like when someone is in agreement with their changes I suddenly see their CM's come out of the woodworks and be all like '' wow we hear you, I will talk to the team '' but when it's negative feedback not in line with their current line they just ignore it or delete it...
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 04-04-2022 at 10:35 PM.

  9. #1539
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    Ara Amai
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I have a newfound appreciation of the somewhat hands off approach of the moderation here. Over on the Lost Ark forums, they mass delete, ban, and blanket remove anything and everything related to any particular topic. We had a couple positive threads about their class artist, and just the skins in their game. Deleted. I posted in another thread about skins, and I watched in real time as my posts were hidden, and then subsequently deleted one by one, along with the person who replied to me. Not only that though, they then deleted the thread I bumped in it's entirety.

    Somehow, I was one of the few who didn't get banned.

    I'm sorry for taking you all for granted SE forum mods.
    I don't think the moderation is what's wrong here but the devs giving 2 shits about the forums lol
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  10. #1540
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    Padudu Moro
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    Zalera
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Do we have an obligatory American "why the heck do I have to figure out taxes out when every other country has their crap together?" yet? Totally not working on an amended return right now due to my employer messing up.. I cry.
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