Off Topic Discussion Megathread

[Vahlnir]

Starfield looked interesting. I watched the showcase for it live. It seems very much like a sandbox, huge world(s) and everything. One of Bethesda's strengths is ther hand-crafted open worlds, and if they stray from that, the experience could be pretty diluted. Writing isn't really their strong suit, nor is combat, let's be honest. I know they have had procedural generation before with Daggerfall, but I'm just wondering how this will turn out. Hopefully the building and everything else is much more polished since Fallout 4 and 76. Having a fully crewed custom ship seems pretty cool, the idea of the game in general seems really cool - on paper at least. I just wonder how diluted the experience may end up being.

Honestly, my expectations with Bethesda and a lot of gaming companies are pretty low. Starfield will hopefully be good, but I'm guessing that the modding community will have to take it upon themselves to fix whatever is broken and keep the game lively, like they always do. Bethesda is very predictable.

[SturmChurro]

Honestly, my expectations with Bethesda and a lot of gaming companies are pretty low. Starfield will hopefully be good, but I'm guessing that the modding community will have to take it upon themselves to fix whatever is broken and keep the game lively, like they always do. Bethesda is very predictable.

I believe that to be a misconception. People always like to praise modding community of those games, but people don't realize that, while yes there has been a modding community that has gone back decades, these games were more popular via console. Console did not really have mods for the life cycles of the majority of these games. Meaning the majority of people playing the various series played them via console without mods or modder "fixes".

I think my expectations for any particular Bethesda game are pretty realistic for my disposition. People complained about Fallout 76, but I still put a few hundred hours in it (so far), I have several thousand combined in their other titles. I don't see me not doing the same in this game. I just like Bethesda games.

[Vahlnir]

I believe that to be a misconception. People always like to praise modding community of those games, but people don't realize that, while yes there has been a modding community that has gone back decades, these games were more popular via console. Console did not really have mods for the life cycles of the majority of these games. Meaning the majority of people playing the various series played them via console without mods or modder "fixes".

I think my expectations for any particular Bethesda game are pretty realistic for my disposition. People complained about Fallout 76, but I still put a few hundred hours in it (so far), I have several thousand combined in their other titles. I don't see me not doing the same in this game. I just like Bethesda games.

To each their own! We just have different views on Bethesda.

[SturmChurro]

To each their own! We just have different views on Bethesda.

I was just laying out the facts. Elder Scrolls, and Bethesda Fallout, were popularized via people playing through console - without modder fixes. I don't think Skyrim even got console mods until 5 years or so after it's release. Now, granted, yes mods leave these games, like Skyrim, with more of a lasting popularity, but people who claim it's the PC modding community that holds these games up, have the wrong of it, in my opinion.