Off Topic Discussion Megathread

[Larirawiel]

If you do not like T&E then there is Bellular:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24dtddMT07k



And for me it is plausible that Afrasiabi could be responsible for this. He had a "rockstar" status at Blizzard, he was part of the Cosby suite and he was very high ranked. Maybe he had good ideas with and after the Teldrassil blowup. And maybe he has conviced other employees with "rockstar" status and this "LET US DO SOMETHING COMPLETELY CRAZY"-thing went through. But after this he was removed from the company and the current story team has no idea what to do with the story.

I suppose, they will retcon the Shadowlands story completely and lock it away. So it will become an optional level content. They have possibilities to do this in the game. The bronze dragonswarm could "fix" a damaged timeline etc.




Cheers

[Kolsykol]

If you do not like T&E then there is Bellular:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24dtddMT07k



And for me it is plausible that Afrasiabi could be responsible for this. He had a "rockstar" status at Blizzard, he was part of the Cosby suite and he was very high ranked. Maybe he had good ideas with and after the Teldrassil blowup. And maybe he has conviced other employees with "rockstar" status and this "LET US DO SOMETHING COMPLETELY CRAZY"-thing went through. But after this he was removed from the company and the current story team has no idea what to do with the story.

I suppose, they will retcon the Shadowlands story completely and lock it away. So it will become an optional level content. They have possibilities to do this in the game. The bronze dragonswarm could "fix" a damaged timeline etc.




Cheers

I think the '' rockstar mentality '' is honestly quite widespread.
I don't think it's just Blizzard either but I think at Blizzard it's a mentality a large portion of the devs have.
It makes sense on some level, Blizzard was probably still a pretty huge deal and well respected when they were hired.
It probably strokes your ego a bit to get hired by a company like Blizzard.

I actually don't think Teldrassil being burnt down was bad in and of itself, Night Elves were my favorite in WoW too my first character back in WoW was a Night Elf Hunter ( yes very original lel ).
But I thought it was a cool and risky thing, I like when they do bold decisions that have a lasting impact.
The issue was just how it was handled but I don't think that the idea itself was bad.

It does upset some people I mean every time the Horde or Alliance takes a L people get mad about it out of faction loyalty too.
But I think that if you listen too much to that it holds you back from doing interesting things.

[Garet]

I think the '' rockstar mentality '' is honestly quite widespread.
I don't think it's just Blizzard either but I think at Blizzard it's a mentality a large portion of the devs have.
It makes sense on some level, Blizzard was probably still a pretty huge deal and well respected when they were hired.
It probably strokes your ego a bit to get hired by a company like Blizzard.

I actually don't think Teldrassil being burnt down was bad in and of itself, Night Elves were my favorite in WoW too my first character back in WoW was a Night Elf Hunter ( yes very original lel ).
But I thought it was a cool and risky thing, I like when they do bold decisions that have a lasting impact.
The issue was just how it was handled but I don't think that the idea itself was bad.

It does upset some people I mean every time the Horde or Alliance takes a L people get mad about it out of faction loyalty too.
But I think that if you listen too much to that it holds you back from doing interesting things.

It cannot be helped. rockstar mentality exists in all corporations. It is a result of competition where naturally the best and smartest will be rockstars. The problem lies on how these rockstars uses their status though. And it seems a lot of the executive caught in the scandal at blizz used theirs for the wrong things.

[Larirawiel]

I think the '' rockstar mentality '' is honestly quite widespread.
I don't think it's just Blizzard either but I think at Blizzard it's a mentality a large portion of the devs have.
It makes sense on some level, Blizzard was probably still a pretty huge deal and well respected when they were hired.
It probably strokes your ego a bit to get hired by a company like Blizzard.

I actually don't think Teldrassil being burnt down was bad in and of itself, Night Elves were my favorite in WoW too my first character back in WoW was a Night Elf Hunter ( yes very original lel ).
But I thought it was a cool and risky thing, I like when they do bold decisions that have a lasting impact.
The issue was just how it was handled but I don't think that the idea itself was bad.

It does upset some people I mean every time the Horde or Alliance takes a L people get mad about it out of faction loyalty too.
But I think that if you listen too much to that it holds you back from doing interesting things.

It seems, that the "rockstar" mentality at Blizzard was very special. Many "rockstars" were ex-Everquest hardcore players. Those connections from these days outlasted for decades. Afrasiabi has/had a huge alcohol problem, but he was still employed etc. If you have such a community on the top of a company then some very stupid decisions can happen.

And the Teldrassil blowup could be interesting in the story. So i can imagine that some other people in the company gave their OK for this. But then Afrasiabi was removed. And the current team tried to repair the mess and they had no clue what to do. There was another information that the concept of Zovaal/The Jailer did not exist until the second half of BfA. It seems, that they introduced this guy very quickly and it would also explain why the Zovaal <-> Sylvannas interaction is so illogical and make no sense in the end. Afrasiabi tried to destroy Sylvannas as a character. He wanted revenge, because Dave Kosak destroyed Garrosh. And the current team tries to redeem Sylvannas. That's really weird.


Cheers