Off Topic Discussion Megathread

[Caurcas]

It's a terrible feeling looking at series, universes and properties you enjoy and seeing them all go to crap. Warhammer and Warhammer 40k are dying from self inflicted wounds. No Elder Scrolls game on the horizon. Dragon Age being stillborn since 2. Gaming is going to crap.

[Fukuro]

Gaming is going to crap.

I understand what you mean, seeing some awesome beloved series going downhill hurts. There are still awesome games and fresh IP’s on the horizon, just need to look out for the gems!

I‘m quite hyped for 2022 to be honest! Some of the games I’M pretty HYPED for: Elden Ring ooooh Elden Ring, Zelda BOTW 2, Horizon forbidden West, Hogwarts Legacy, FF 16, God of War 2 : Ragnarök, Dying Light 2 and and and…

[Illmaeran]

Warhammer 40k are dying from self inflicted wounds.

Could you please expand on this? I've taken a bit of a break from 40K as my two armies haven't had their codices released yet and I got tired of being bent over every time I played. I don't read any of the Black Library books and haven't played a 40K video game since Dawn of War, so I've got no clue what sort of "self inflicted wounds" are eating away at the IP outside of the tabletop game.

[Caurcas]

Could you please expand on this? I've taken a bit of a break from 40K as my two armies haven't had their codices released yet and I got tired of being bent over every time I played. I don't read any of the Black Library books and haven't played a 40K video game since Dawn of War, so I've got no clue what sort of "self inflicted wounds" are eating away at the IP outside of the tabletop game.

They are basically ruining their own lore with really bad retcons (giving the Emperor a name, a wife and making her the reason the primarchs were spread through out the galaxy instead of the Chaos gods. Also Emps didn't make the space marines, instead it was some rando scientist). As for the table top, they just keep making it more expensive. They also killed their fan animation community for some reason with threat of DMCA.

[Theodric]

They also killed their fan animation community for some reason with threat of DMCA.

It's always hilarious to me when a company does something like that, since it's essentially free advertisement.

[Illmaeran]

They are basically ruining their own lore with really bad retcons (giving the Emperor a name, a wife and making her the reason the primarchs were spread through out the galaxy instead of the Chaos gods. Also Emps didn't make the space marines, instead it was some rando scientist). As for the table top, they just keep making it more expensive. They also killed their fan animation community for some reason with threat of DMCA.

Wait, what? They did what to the Emperor?! Seriously? That's insane. I did hear about the whole Dr. Astartes being the one who designed the SMs, but nothing at all about the rest. The last I heard was the Primarchs were still YOLOed by the Chaos Gods. All that's saaaaaaad. Good thing I don't play Imperium!

I hear you about the cost increase. I've got a decent pile of shame and basically refuse to spend my own money on it any longer. I'll get my new codices when they come out and may grab a new box or two when the Chaos stuff drops if there's anything interesting, but aside from that it's only birthdays and Christmases from now on. Hell, maybe not even then. The past two orders I've placed directly with GW have taken two months to arrive and I'm a bit salty about that.

Fan animations....*cries in Astartes*

[Kolsykol]

They are basically ruining their own lore with really bad retcons (giving the Emperor a name, a wife and making her the reason the primarchs were spread through out the galaxy instead of the Chaos gods. Also Emps didn't make the space marines, instead it was some rando scientist). As for the table top, they just keep making it more expensive. They also killed their fan animation community for some reason with threat of DMCA.

I am honestly not a big 40k fan, but I HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE Age of Sigmar....
It doesn't feel like Warhammer to me at all.

The minis look great in terms of quality but it seriously looks more like Warcraft than Warhammer to me and it feels too clean.
Obviously they still put out adult content but I really do feel like they've been going in a more '' safe '' direction.
Even the more grotesque minis still have this weird clean look, I think they really want to try and '' appeal to a broad audience '' aka '' make it E-Everyone '' but are too scared to go all the way so they're in this bizarre middle-ground.

The lore is just rly dumb too the End Times was a complete disaster full of awful writing.

I think it's quite telling that the best Warhammer stuff haven't been their own stuff, the best Warhammer has been in recent memory imo is the Total War games.