I agree there, hating on lyse has seemingly become a meme and I don't understand why, sure, StB writing isn't as good as parts of HW or ShB, but still decent overall
It's not like Yda and Papalymo were a huge part of ARR and considering half of their interactions were Lyse saying something smart but in simple words, Papalymo insulting her but saying the same thing with more complex words, it just begs the question how that is seemingly more funny than similar things happening throughout StB, just with different people taking on the role of Papalymo instead