Off Topic Discussion Megathread

[MilkieTea]

You ever have a large reply, and then you just fat finger a key somewhere and the whole thing disappears? That just happened, and I don't think I have the will to rewrite it. I bumped my mouse when I was moving my hand to use it, and the whole page went back.

Anyway, I was just saying that EW really is at the point where it's too close, and too far at the same time. It was sort of thought out (from my point of view), but I'm not rewriting that. Oh well.

Sometimes when I get really heated I write up entire word doc paragraphs and then delete them on purpose. But then when I'm happy and whatnot all my messages get deleted on accident. Can never get what I wanna say out either way lmao.

[Caurcas]

lol

I find it hard to side with Ulfric in every single one of my playthroughs, so I go to the Imperials to help reclaim Skyrim. For the nords, of course. Just not every nord. Especially not that Ulfric guy.

It's not necessarily that I like Ulfric, it's more I prefer the idea of self governance and not being shackled to a foreign,dying regime. Throw in roaming secret police of another foreign power, and the fact that they tried to execute the player character without charge makes the choice for me.

[Vyrerus]

It's not necessarily that I like Ulfric, it's more I prefer the idea of self governance and not being shackled to a foreign,dying regime. Throw in roaming secret police of another foreign power, and the fact that they tried to execute the player character without charge makes the choice for me.

The thing is, is that the Empire is actually against the Thalmor. They just don't have enough power yet to stand up and fight them. Ulfric is an opportunist trying to seize power over Skyrim, and had already lost if not for Alduin interrupting the execution because of the Dragonborn.

Basically, siding with Ulfric is condemning Skyrim to independent rule by someone who has already proven they can't even take on one legion of the Empire without you. They will never stand a chance against the Thalmor.

Also, the decision to execute the player was commanded by an individual. While other leaders were there, they weren't concerned with justice for individuals at the time, since executing Ulfric takes precedence. I don't really have any great love for Tulius, but his second in command kind of makes up for it. Do wish I coulda killed the lady that orders my execution in the tutorial. Woulda been nice!

Siding with the Empire is also a move that keeps it unified. To splinter it by trying to command Skyrim to be independent just means the Aldmeri Dominion get even more power over Tamriel.

[Caurcas]

The thing is, is that the Empire is actually against the Thalmor. They just don't have enough power yet to stand up and fight them. Ulfric is an opportunist trying to seize power over Skyrim, and had already lost if not for Alduin interrupting the execution because of the Dragonborn.

Basically, siding with Ulfric is condemning Skyrim to independent rule by someone who has already proven they can't even take on one legion of the Empire without you. They will never stand a chance against the Thalmor.

Also, the decision to execute the player was commanded by an individual. While other leaders were there, they weren't concerned with justice for individuals at the time, since executing Ulfric takes precedence. I don't really have any great love for Tulius, but his second in command kind of makes up for it. Do wish I coulda killed the lady that orders my execution in the tutorial. Woulda been nice!

Siding with the Empire is also a move that keeps it unified. To splinter it by trying to command Skyrim to be independent just means the Aldmeri Dominion get even more power over Tamriel.

Hammerfell was cut loose by the Empire and they drove the Thalmor out, so can Skyrim. Furthermore, the Thalmor would have to cross either Hammerfell or Cyrodiil in order to reach Skyrim. From which they then would have to maintain supply line whilst fighting against a nation that has a homefield advantage. It would be a quagmire for the Thalmor. Also, as an avid individualist I will always stand by a nation that wants self governance from a failed foreign power. Plus Dragonborn wild card.

[Vyrerus]

Hammerfell was cut loose by the Empire and they drove the Thalmor out, so can Skyrim. Furthermore, the Thalmor would have to cross either Hammerfell or Cyrodiil in order to reach Skyrim. From which they then would have to maintain supply line whilst fighting against a nation that has a homefield advantage. It would be a quagmire for the Thalmor. Also, as an avid individualist I will always stand by a nation that wants self governance from a failed foreign power. Plus Dragonborn wild card.

Hammerfell only held out against the Aldmeri Dominion because the Empire made the decision to allow the Imperial troops fighting for Hammerfell to be considered, "Invalid." This cut them loose without punishment, while maintaining the treaty with the Thalmor, which gave Hammerfell the necessary manpower to continue resisting. In the end, the Aldmeri withdrew, but over half of Hammerfell is in ruins. A pyrrhic victory under the auspices of the Empire. You're welcome.

The only way an Ulfric lead Skyrim is having any chance against the Aldmeri is if they ally with Hammerfell or another nation, so that they can make up for their deficiencies. They've got no navy. No real powerful mages. They've got the Thu'um, but not everybody's got the Thu'um.

Suppose Ulfric does win in Skyrim. What happens to the rest of what's left of the Empire? It does crumble, and then the Aldmeri take Cyrodil again. The only real wild card preventing this is what the dragons are doing.

I'm actually kind of jonesing for Elder Scrolls 6 in this regard, because I would very much like to know where they will go canonically with the Skyrim Civil War. Assuming we don't get like... some tale from the 1st Era or something instead of moving on to the 5th era or later in the 4th. I'd like to know if Paarthurnax actually succeeds in getting some benevolent dragon society going. Whether or not the Dragonborn stayed engaged with the political strife/war.

It'd also be cool if it was like, The Elder Scrolls VI: Outcast People, and was centered around Orsinium or something or other. Orcs ftw, baby!

[GaleMex]

You ever have a large reply, and then you just fat finger a key somewhere and the whole thing disappears? That just happened, and I don't think I have the will to rewrite it. I bumped my mouse when I was moving my hand to use it, and the whole page went back.

Anyway, I was just saying that EW really is at the point where it's too close, and too far at the same time. It was sort of thought out (from my point of view), but I'm not rewriting that. Oh well.

Less than a month! You got this! Wanna farm Rival Wings with me in the meantime?

[SturmChurro]

Less than a month! You got this! Wanna farm Rival Wings with me in the meantime?

I don't do PvP in this game.

I was trying to say that I've been having trouble finding something to kill the time with that doesn't involve too much of a commitment. I have my eyes on several RPGs, but those are 100+ hour playthroughs, and I don't think I'd put in enough playtime each day to actually finish one by launch. I don't want to start up any other online games, such as ESO, because that requires too much of a commitment. I could also just get back into FFXIV, but I don't really want to burn myself out doing too much until after EW is launched.. etc. etc..

[Theodric]

The only thing I absolutely 'need' to do at this point is acquire another 30 tomes before Endwalker so I can grab the jacket from the tomestone event. I'm not even sure if I'll use it, but don't want to miss out on something that is likely going to only be available once.

Other than that, I'm just chipping away at random achievements to pass the time.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Just farming tomes for the jacket now. Mostly doing Exdeath and Kefka as a DRK so I can do a little work on the tank achievements at the same time.

Also intermittently searching for a dragoon glamour. Haven't settled on anything yet.

[SturmChurro]

You ever see the news on mmorpgs like New World, or any of the other new ones, and are like "wow! dodged a bullet".

Think I'll just stick to what I know.